On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:

> On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 13:44, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > So don't say it this way that they are doing this great project
> > which will save the humanity blah blah...  You still get excited
> > by those words?
>
> I am excited, since I saw some output from the people involved: A
> commercial probabilistic English to Persian translation engine, a tagged
> corpus of pronunciations for lots of standard Persian, an OCR that
> worked wonderfully for handwritten disjoint Persian letters, and a
> script that inserted all the "kasre-ye ezaafe"s automatically (which
> worked not only on whole sentences, but even on things like book
> titles).
>
> Let's just say this: Isn't a database of famous people and places' names
> and their Persian translation not exciting if released as Open Source,
> something that tells you Democritus is "zimeghraatis" and Casablanca is
> "daar ol-beyzaa"? Specially if someone already has it?


These indeed look exciting, but in my laptop, not theirs.


> I get excited when I see people who have done something that stays with
> us. I get excited when they mention they'll be doing everything Open
> Source without anybody pushing them. And it was not only me.


Sure, if it really stays with *us*.  "They'll be doing" is what I
asked if you still get excited about.  Man, how many yours you
have been in this business?


> > IRI is IRI, period.
>
> Does that make everybody living in IRI a fool?!


No, but any project run by IRI a foolish dumb one with no results
wasting oil money.  You know I'm so disappointed about the
National Persian Linux project.


> > By the way, yes, it IS that hard, the cursor
> > problem at least.
>
> I know. But it's not something unsolvable by the FarsiWeb team, at least
> theoretically. You don't agree?!


I'm afraid not.  I'm afraid one of these days I theoretically
prove it can't be solved.  But of course that would be
theoretically, not practically.  (that bidi is not reversible
simply means you can't get a 100% expected cursor position, huh?)

> roozbeh


BTW, guess enough of this thread.  Find another interesting thing
to continue this beautiful month.  :-)


Ok, Professor Yarshater, the author of the great Encyclopedia
Iranica[1] is going to be around in two weeks.  I may get the
chance to conduct a short interview with him.  So, ideas about
what to ask, what to focus, is appreciated.

[1] http://www.iranica.com/

--behdad
  behdad.org
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