On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Royce Ausburn <royce...@inomial.com> wrote:
>> Personally I think some log output, done better, would have been more useful 
>> for me at the time.  At the time I was trying to diagnose an ineffective 
>> vacuum and postgres' logs weren't giving me any hints about what was wrong.  
>> I turned to the mailing list and got immediate help, but I felt that ideally 
>> postgres would be logging something to tell me that some 1 day old 
>> transactions were preventing auto vacuum from doing its job.  Something, 
>> anything that I could google.  Other novices in my situation probably 
>> wouldn't know to look in the pg_stats* tables, so in retrospect my patch 
>> isn't really achieving my original goal.
>>
>> Should we consider taking a logging approach instead?
>
> Dopey suggestion:
>
> Instead of logging around vacuum and auto_vacuum, perhaps log transactions 
> that are open for longer than some (perhaps configurable) time?  The default 
> might be pretty large, say 6 hours.  Are there common use cases for txs that 
> run for longer than 6 hours?  Seeing a message such as:
>
> WARNING: Transaction <X> has been open more than Y.  This tx may be holding 
> locks preventing other txs from operating and may prevent vacuum from 
> cleaning up deleted rows.
>
> Would give a pretty clear indication of a problem :)

Well, you could that much just by periodically querying pg_stat_activity.

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Robert Haas
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