On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Magnus Hagander <mag...@hagander.net> wrote: > createdb, dropdb - also not clear they're about postgres, more likely to be > used by mistake but not that bad. That said, do they add any *value* beyond > what you can do with psql -c "CREATE DATABASE"? I don't really see one, so > I'd suggest dropping these too.
That would annoy me, because I use these constantly. I also think that they solve a problem for users, which is this: [rhaas ~]$ psql psql: FATAL: database "rhaas" does not exist [rhaas ~]$ psql -c 'create database rhaas;' psql: FATAL: database "rhaas" does not exist [rhaas ~]$ gosh, i know i need to connect to a database in order to create the database to which psql tries to connect by default, so there must be an existing database with some name, but what exactly is that name, anyway? -bash: gosh,: command not found There was an occasion when this exact problem almost caused me to give up on using PostgreSQL. Everybody here presumably knows that template1 and postgres are the magic words you can add to the end of that command line to make it work, but that is NOT self-evident to newcomers. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (email@example.com) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers