> I believe the things I do regarding the fork because of personal > conversations with people close to the decision.
Fun because we are the people who took the decisions and we never got a real discussions so far. So this means that so far you got discussions with people that believe that they know why we forked but may be these people have only a partial view on it. ;D And since we created Pharo with Marcus and a couple of others I can tell that this is not a ego nor a personal point that drove us. I was thinking to go to ruby, python or lua at that time. This is a life vision. People should simply look at what our acts! We are not doing Pharo for us but because we believe in a smalltalk way of programming. But we want more much more than an old ST-80 system. >> If you ask me, we should have started to do Pharo way before because we all >> lost >> energy for nothing. If I should redo it I would. > > That may be so. Squeak in 2013 is not the same community as Squeak in > 2007/2008 (and not just because most of the community moved to Pharo). Sure! Now when you wake up the morning you have to decide what you want to do and we decided to build Pharo to create a sustainable eco system where companies can make money and wealth/knowledge/innovation can expand. I have no idea what is the goal of squeak but our goal is clear (and may be it is not reasonable) is to make a true alternative to dynamic languages out there and the best Smalltalk implementation we can. We wrote a 40 pages document and one day I will revise it. So people sharing this vision can join or not. Pharo is not a closed project we welcome newcomers. We even hired them when they share our vision and we have money (with I fight for). for example the first time I met esteban he was not really happy about Pharo, then he **understood** after discussing for real with us our vision. Stef
