Sure but the new thing was NewValueHolder.

ValueHolder per se doesn't look like impacted.

Well I saw some OldValueHolder proposal but it seemed strange to me.

How would you name the new thing?

Is there some pattern for that kind of case?

Phil

Le 19 août 2014 07:52, "Eliot Miranda" <eliot.mira...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> It is well to remember Marshall McLuhan, The Medium is the Message, the
thesis of which is that the nature of any medium has more importance than
the content if that medium in shaping its effects in the users of that
medium.
>
> On the medium side, email is devoid of nuance, unless smattered with
emoticons, themselves a very limited sub-medium that many of us employ only
partially.  It is /so/ common to see an escalation of hurt emerge from an
email thread started by a misreading of an email that imputed offense when
none was intended.
>
> On the message side, names are important.  Sentences become
incomprehensible if nouns are arbitrarily rebound.  ValueHolder may not be
the greatest name, just as apareille a photo is clumsier than camera, but
we can't just change them to frotboggle or bungswallop just because they
sound more poetic.  ReactiveVariable is criticizes me on the basis that it
is an object that contains a variable, not a variable itself, and garner
misleading, /and/ that it is a renaming of an (albeit imperfectly) already
named concept, ValueHolder, and if one doesn't want to unnecessarily break
others' understanding and much older Pharo and non-Pharo code that uses it
one is better leaving sleeping dogs lie.
>
> HTH
> Eliot (phone)
>
> On Aug 18, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Benjamin <
benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > I am sending this email to explain why I am quiting the Pharo community,
> > as well as the Smalltalk community.
> >
> > I can not bear Stephane Ducasse's behavior anymore whether at a public
> > level or a private level.
> >
> > It seems that his ego is preventing him from being able to have a
discussion
> > without overreacting, being agressive, or insulting.
> >
> > I can not approve how Stephane is constantly talking behind my back to
unleash
> > his irrationnal wrath and to provide his very own version of the facts.
> >
> > I can not see how this can lead to a peaceful and respectful community
> > where we can all have fun building a future.
> >
> > Therefore I will not be part of this project anymore, since the way
Stephane
> > is acting is taking away all the fun I can have interacting with all of
you.
> >
> > It was a hard decision to take, but I can not be part of a community led
> > by someone whose behaviour is going against all my principles.
> >
> > I wish to all of you to have fun, and keep me in touch
> > if you want to have a beer someday ;)
> >
> > Ben
>

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