There is another option: work together again.

On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:56, [email protected] wrote:

> Due to Ben leaving, we have one MIT version and his version. 
> Now, we will have the Pharo fork and his version.
> 
> Maybe is it time to fork the repo and get our own under the Pharo project.
> 
> Phil
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Luc Fabresse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Since the code of Spec has been integrated in Pharo when it was MIT, I think 
> that this is not a problem.
> To me, the new licence only apply to the new code in the repository of Spec 
> since the licence changed.
> So now, no spec code should be loaded in the Pharo base image.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Luc
> 
> 
> 2014-08-26 10:18 GMT+02:00 Serge Stinckwich <[email protected]>:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:03, Serge Stinckwich <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Alain Rastoul <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> +1 for the GTInspector, and the Moose tools/paradigm too (Roassal, 
> >>> Glamour,
> >>> Moose and others), all that stuff is great step forward and could arouse
> >>> interest from doubtful people.
> >>> I remember myself failing to show some collegues at work how the smalltalk
> >>> system could be a cool tool to play with, even for people sticking on
> >>> dotNet, Delphi or C++.
> >>> And sometimes they remember that too ...
> >>> (Smalltalk? Squeak? -at that time- that blinking and poping toy ? hahaha
> >>> ...)
> >>> :(
> >>> Still working on that like a flea (?- a morpion)
> >>>
> >>> Morphic removed is good news - clumsy, buggy and weird - but I don't
> >>> understand the relationship with GTInspector ?
> >>> I googled about that and just found a post of you about Bloc in the 
> >>> mailing
> >>> list, it sounds like a good idea, and I'm sure you'll manage to do it
> >>> cleanly, but I'm also very curious about that: big bang  or dependency
> >>> injection and small steps? other patterns, techniques ? a link on Bloc ?
> >>> I'm also curious about Spec and it's status after it's change to GPL ? 
> >>> Will
> >>> it be supported in the future ? What are the alternatives ?
> >>
> >> Yes, apparently spec is distributed now under a dual licence : MIT
> >> when used as an external library (not sure what it means when you use
> >> Smalltalk)
> >> and GPL when integrated in an IDE ... I think that this is a potential
> >> problem for Pharo.
> >>
> > GPL is not compatible with Pharo. All code that is part of the Pharo main 
> > distribution
> > is either historical (Apple Licence) or MIT.
> >
> > We even let people sign a document that makes this clear.
> >
> > New code has to be MIT, we do not accept any other license (as part of the 
> > main distribution).
> >
> > e.g. Zinc was done because the HTTP server we were using was made GPL (it 
> > did not have
> > a licence when we started to use it).
> 
> I completely agree with you. This why I was worried with this double
> licencing of spec.
> 
> Regards,
> --
> Serge Stinckwich
> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
> 
> 
> 


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