On 26 Aug 2014, at 11:50, [email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 26 Aug 2014, at 11:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:58, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> There is another option: work together again.
> >
> > Is an option, in theory. But doesn’t looks like happening any time soon, 
> > sadly :(
> 
> Well, everybody loses by forking.
> 
> Sure but for Ben new commits will be GPL. Pull requests included.
> Basically, we are fucked on that line I'd say.

@Phil

Look, I don't want to defend or attack either party and the recent license 
change is a bit dubious, like Marcus said. But for the sake of argument, I 
think your conclusion is wrong: he says/wants Spec to be managed as an external 
library that gets integrated back to Pharo from time to time. When doing so, 
everything remains MIT licensed. Else he wants it to be GPL-ed so that it 
cannot be integrated in Pharo.

@Esteban

But again: if there is a conflict there are always two solutions, solve it or 
part ways. Saying the other party made me do it is the same as saying I am 
right and he is wrong (and this goes for both sides ;-)

Maybe we should start another thread about this. Because the basic question is 
not about a license or a name change but about how to work together and about 
control, specifically for parts and/or developers that are external. I know 
that this is a complex discussion, but if we in general have problems of 
working modular than we are in trouble, no ?

Sven


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