Phil

If you put money on the table this can change the game.
Now our resources are CONSTRAINED>

Stef

Well, I am working with a couple startups in the mobile space.

You see that people uninstall larger apps.

It is not an opinion it is a metric. Also I am speaking about RAM too.

Nexus devices are special as they usually manage storage well and have more than other devices. I have a nexus 7 around.

Some apps are not able to go to the external SD card and with devices with 4 or 8 GB internal storage it becomes an issue once you factor in pictures, movies etc. Cleanmaster not withstanding. I use it too. But not everyone knows about it.

Lower end smartphones aren't as good.

I want Pharo to be relevant on my mobe as a dev platform through HTML5. Maybe not today but ultimately.

Part of that is reducing the footprint. Java runs on the mobe in a smaller footprint. So can Pharo.
A modular Pharo is the key and it is not easy to achieve it seems.

PharoME - "Micro Edition" is a powerful value proposition for a lot of use cases.

Coupled with things like what Goran does with Nim could open interesting avenues.

I agree that machines are getting more powerful and this will not matter in the long run. But for getting in the game now it does. That's the whole point I think.

Phil

Le 25 nov. 2014 00:48, "kilon alios" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

    my opinion is this : if something needs to go because it does not
    add to the usefulness of the package , then kill it without
    hesitation  and kill it with fire.

    But if you kill it just for the sake of keeping the distribution
    small then yes I have a problem with that especially for platforms
    that size is not an issue for the vast majority of users.

    Other than that I leave it to the good judgement of pharoers ,
    obviously sometime is not a simple decision and will depend on the
    particulars of the situation.


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