Le 25/12/14 15:46, Peter Uhnak a écrit :
This look really interesting! However is there any diagram showing how
all the components (morphic, athens, spec, bloc, or even glamour and
roassal) work together? At least to me it feels that there is some
sort of overlapping. Is bloc replacing morphic?
Bloc is a core graphical frameworks.
it rethinks
- rendering
- event handling
- view composition
Bloc is composed about a low-level:
- morphs + event + views
Then on top of it we will have Bloc-Widgets
valueModel + (spec unsure but we want the same composibility/reuse)
+ bloc-core
Bloc uses Athens.
The goal is to replace Morphic (a framework)
Glamour is on top.
Roassal could reuse bloc-core.
Stef
Peter
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From: stepharo <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 12/25/2014 11:51 AM
To: Pharo Development List <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] a short Bloc demo
> On some point, you will need to have some functional widgets.
Exact and since there is no magic we will start to write them. We
started to write a radio button and this led to a redesin of the core
and now we should be ready to try again.
If you are not afraid about strange/bad/circumvoluted code have a look
at the code of PluggableButtonMorph (not talking about tableLayout
intrincaties).
So we will not copy Morphic! It will take time and if people want to
help they will be able to improve their future.
Stef
> Can we start to build our own UI using Bloc?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
>> On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Alain Plantec
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On 25 Dec 2014, at 10:31, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Le 25/12/14 03:04, Ben Coman a écrit :
>>>> Really nice to see your progress. Now do you have some sketches
that show how it relates to the components of the existing Morphic?
What is being disposed of, what reimplemented, what ported?
>> yes, almost everything is new or rewritten and you are right, its
time to write documentation.
>> Now, there is one well identified issue.
>> Athens is used to render everything except
>> the Morphic world.
>> This is cool but at the end of the rendering, the vm Form based
display is used by wrappers :
>> see in TBlAthensWrapper>>unprotectedFullDrawOn:
>> ----
>> self surface displayOnMorphicCanvas: aCanvas at: self position
>> ——
>> It slows down the rendering very much.
>> what would be cool would be to have a native Athens/Cairo vm
display to really
>> benefit from Athens.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>> I'm writing class comments and soon a chapter. But it takes time
because I have to also do a bit of reverse engineering.
>>> Now Bloc does not relate to Morphic :) Everything is rewritten
from scratch and we will rewrite everything.
>>> We will try to reuse Spec.
>>> Now for default Morphic, rewritting all the morphs to use Athens
>>> is a huge tasks considered the current logic of certain morphic
elements
>>> Since Bloc is fully athens-based, it may be better to only work on
Bloc.
>>> Now the trick is that we can use the morphic elements.
>>>> This would really help to understand where contributions might be
useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> btw, with Build 40419, "ConfigurationOfBloc load" warns that
>>>> it depends on BlEllipseShape which must be resolved before
#drawOn: and #drawOnAthensCanvas: can be resolved.
>>> Yes this is normal, you should load bleedingEdge.
>>>> "ConfigurationOfBlock loadDevelopment" works fine.
>>>>
>>>> cheer -ben
>>>>
>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>>>>> Yes, a nice X-Mas present !
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Dec 2014, at 15:41, Alexandre Bergel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! Impressive!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Alain Plantec
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve just uploaded a small demo of Bloc.
>>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/115336678
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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