Hi, > On Jun 10, 2016, at 8:48 AM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the feedback. Sorry for the long email, but I you raised >>>> several issues and I thought it is worth addressing them. >>>> >>>> The feature we are talking about came into being after several suggestions >>>> on this mailing list (and quite some long discussions) that had the >>>> scenario of keeping track of several executions. In the first version of >>>> the Playground it was not possible to paste directly in the playground. We >>>> did not impose anything, it was the contrary. >>> and the result is that I can spend time removing spurrious comments. >>>> From your email I see that you would rather prefer the variant of >>>> embedding the text as is after pressing Enter. Is this correct? >>>> >>>> Here is another variant: >>>> - Cmd+p >>>> - Cmd+v ==> paste the string directly in the editor without comments >>> why not. >>> but this is confusing with copy paste. >>> So will you corrupt the current selection. >> Hmm. I do not see this one, so I need a bit more explanations. Here is what >> I understand: >> - in the old editor, the behavior was that when you pressed Cmd+p, the >> printed text got selected >> - in my proposal, you press Cmd+p,Cmd+v and you get exactly the same text >> selected. > We should stop to have this emacs plague. > And I can have something in my paste buffer and printing should not remove it. > > 'KJHJKKJ' cmd C > cmd v -> 'KJHJKKJ' > 1+3 cmd p should not destroy nor paste ‘KJHJKKJ'
I think you misunderstood. I meant: Cmd+p ==> the print-it popup Cmd+v ==> add the print-it text in the original text editor So, the second step is a pseudo-mode with a visual feedback, not like in Emacs. So, Cmd+v would leave the clipboard untouched, and ‘KJHJKKJ’ would still remain there. But, perhaps Cmd+v is too much of an overlap. >> Did I misunderstand something? >> >> One note: Cmd+v would not imply copying to the clipboard. >> >> >>> So should I trade copy/paste with getting a value printed. >>> May be cmd+r for raw >> This is tempting. How about Cmd+Shift+p (force print-it)? > Please consider that shift does not exist. > It forces thumb to do a bad gymnastic and for me it simply ***hurt*** > physically so I never use bindings in Spotter with shift since > I want to make sure that I can continue to type on a keyboard. > >> >> This brings us to the cmd+shift issue. I wanted to ask for a longer time how >> do you press Cmd+Shift+n for references? Is there a difference in how you >> use the keyboard in that case? Please note that I am not mocking you. I want >> to know. > > left thumb (finder 1) on cmd > left finger 4 on shift and right finger 2 > This position does not hurt but is not confortable because lock upper case is > just above. Interesting. I am doing the same. So, what is the difference between this case and: left thumb (finder 1) on cmd left finger 4 on shift and right finger 2 right finger 4 or 5 on arrows ? >>>> ... >>>> This discussion is one of those. We wanted to solve the most often >>>> appearing case in which we use Cmd+p as a way to preview quickly the >>>> result. Pasting the code in the existing playground is an edge case for >>>> Cmd+p, not the primary case. >>> how did you measure it? >>> Because for me this is always the inverse. >> I watched people deleting the printed code so many times, including me that >> this became frustrating enough to trigger a new solution. Then when we >> released the playground 2 years ago, people liked it and they only announced >> the need for a way to keep track of execution results. > I know. Now remember the dancing bear and the woman that was asked to try a > new keyboard and that was sad that she could not adapt. >>>>> ... >>>> Let’s do a remote session and I watch you do things. This week I am >>>> available this Thursday morning or Friday after 11. >>> I'm not available. Going to hard rock concert with teenagers. >> Have fun :). How about next week on Monday? > > I could around 16h Great. I booked it in my calendar. Cheers, Doru >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow." -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution."
