The #printString of most objects is not valid Pharo syntax, it makes sense to put those into comments, so that the overall syntax of the workspace/playground is maintained and syntax highlighting can operate normally.
A result printed as a comment is also easy to select (by double-clicking next to the $" on the inside). All this makes sense for literal programming (assuming that is what you are after). What is the use case for not doing it like that ? Why do you want the comments gone ? > On 07 Jun 2016, at 13:03, Ben Coman <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Le 5/6/16 à 23:00, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> The quotes appear only when you add the result in the playground. >> >> >> No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >>> >>> The typical use case for this is to keep track of several results. >> >> No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >>> >>> In this situation you do not want to modify the code to not affect the >>> highlighting and this is why it gets in a comment. >> >> This is fun because I never ever needed it. But this is probably what >> everybody else is doing that since this is the default. >> I just write simple code and tests. Indeed I'm not that smart. >> >> But your tools only embedd your scenario and let the other users forced to >> adapt. >> >> Well you do not want but I do. >> I spent my evening removing quotes while writing tests. >> >> What I hate with the GTTools is that you want to teach me how I should work. >> Sorry but good tools do not do that. >> Good tools empower the users and not constraint them. >> >> I work a lot faster when I do not have to remove the wonderful comments or >> when I have to copy and paste. >> This commenting is breaking the flow of efficient people. May be GT team do >> not work write tests in the >> debugger but I do most of the time and I'm forced by the environment to >> remove quotes all over the places. >>> >>> If you want to copy the content without quotes, you can do: >>> Cmd+p -> popup >>> Cmd+c -> selects the current line and copies the text >>> Esc >>> Cmd+v >> >> Sorry but I do not want. >> I just want to print and modify directly. >> 7 keystrokes vs 2 >>> >>> Perhaps we can add another keybinding like Shift+Enter for adding the text >>> without quotes. > > I just had a play with this, and another option might be <ctrl-enter>, > since the <ctrl> key is still selection from doing <ctrl-P> so there > is not much difference in hand movements between <enter> and > <ctrl-enter> > > cheers -ben > >> >> And why not the inverse. >> By default printing is printing and if you want to do something else then >> you have a special binding. > > > >> Now I'm upset with this general attitude (Oh I will teach how you can be a >> nice user) that I will turn them off >> or go and hack my own settings. Still I'm amazingly sad about this state of >> affair. >> All these story about GT is hurting me because of this attitude: we are so >> smart and we thought a lot and we will teach you >> how you should work... and at the end I the end-user has to adapt. >> Look at the Spotter discussions: you looked for the graal and I was just >> telling to you that I cannot find >> simple information such as class refs! >> >> So what saddens me the most is that >> - you pretend to have end-user trying your tools but I have impression >> that they are not real power users >> or this is yourself and it means that you are never exposed to other >> people. >> I can still not use Spotter because the way I put my hand on my >> keyboard. So should change >> - 1 my hands >> - 2 my brain >> - 3 my keyboard >> - 4 do not use the tools? >> - funnily enough if I would not have complain aggressively then it looks >> like we would have the same than before. >> >> Your flow is not mine and I go faster my way but your tools force me to get >> slow. >> I do not have the time to produce a video but I would even if it would give >> a bad press to Pharo. >> I will do a presentation in the rmod team. Because people do not watch >> themselves why acting. >> >> Good tools empower the users not constraint them. >> >> GTTools feel often like an overengineer guitar that would have hampered >> Jimmy Hendrix to do crazy solos. >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 10:20 PM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I would like to know if there is a setting to remove the "" when printing >>>> the result of an expression. >>>> >>>> I know that playground has been thought to help me, but today I watched >>>> myself removing the comments >>>> >>>> code so often that I would like to get a setting because such wrapping of >>>> results is really boring for me. >>>> >>>> I'm spending my time removing them and I start to wonder why they are any >>>> useful. >>>> >>>> I would help me to write fast tests for example in the debugger. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> "What we can governs what we wish."
