One day I would like to invite you to give a lecture in a not that bad
french university
with a not that good network. Each time Pharo freezes you pay me 5 Euros
only and we can
go and pay some really expensive restaurant with your money.
Simple on my machine it times out every five minutes.
<sorry I could not resist>
On 6 Mar 2017, at 19:51, stepharong <[email protected]> wrote:
We should make it available from the catalog :)
Yes, it most certainly should be.
If only we could then tell user to type
Shift-Enter Sublimish Enter
to install it using Spotter right from the catalog ;-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist ... <ducking>
2017-03-06 9:29 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>:
On 6 Mar 2017, at 09:22, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected]>
wrote:
2017-03-06 8:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>:
On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:57, [email protected] wrote:
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Issue-Validator-simple/7294/artifact/report.html
is not integrated for some Monkey reason anyway - still should b/c if
you put sublimish, you need a decent matching Spotter.
Also, I see
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19796/Remove-duplicate-code-from-SublimishTheme
on 5/3. If this moves forward, why not the other one?
BTW Sublimish was an extra thing. Who got that in image?
I don’t know.
It shouldn’t :)
What we should do is to create a page for themes and links to it (and
they should be in catalog) :)
Well, it was me who proposed the slice and yes, I was aware of the
fact that I should not do it because of code freeze (I was not aware
of the two themes policy).
it is not a policy, it is just the idea I have :)
We can remove it again, I will prepare a slice.
problem with it is that is makes ripples.
If community want it (is nice), we can include it, but I would wait for
P7, yes.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19801/Remove-SublimishTheme
At least it was an advertisement for this theme that moved it forward
and the integration of it helped to improve the dark theme too. And
showed again how much we need the concept of palettes used strictly in
the system.
-- Pavel
Esteban
-- Pavel
Esteban
Phil
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:17, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi,
First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use,
but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and
I like in general all this new additions.
By the way, even if I like it, I would not have integrated
SublimishTheme. For same reason I didn’t integrated DarkMetalTheme:
My idea is to have just two themes *in image*: one white, one dark,
and allow people to install other themes from catalog.
Why? Because each class inside image becomes our responsibility and
then a maintainability issue. With themes in particular already
happened that existing themes became abandonware inside the image and
we needed to clean up, not without problems.
cheers,
Esteban
ps: which means also yes: that issue got integrated because I failed
to control the flow of issues...
And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a
good thing.
But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen
version?
Pharo 7 will arrive soon… *if* we can fix all things missing. If I
can suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use
linux and mac (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits
version.
There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why
Spotter does not shows search line.
Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that
meant:
- some important changes in UFFI
- discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo
(no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that
causes a callback problem).
I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in
general deserves a lot of testing.
I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (I’m at the train
now), but in the mean time you can download all from here:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip (linux)
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip (mac)
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip (in case you need
them)
cheers,
Esteban
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