Hi, That is the point of making fine grained things explicit: to have the chance to disagree and discuss :).
I will spawn a separate thread. Doru > On Oct 25, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.ber...@me.com> wrote: > >> Personally (10, 20) for a vector is not really nice and I would really >> like to have a discussion before. > > +1 !!!! > > The Pharo syntax should remain an asset, not become a trap. > > Alexandre > >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Stephane Ducasse >> <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Doru having a few tweets is nice but I do not think that you >>> communicate well around bloc. >>> >>> What I would like to get is a roadmap for Bloc V1.0. >>> - Here are the missing features (documentation), >>> - Here are where we are. >>> Because else it feels like Bloc will never ends. >>> You will argue and tell me that you experiments. But without a feature >>> list then >>> people cannot join and do not know when you get a 1.0. >>> >>> Not measuring is the best way to arrive to a point where you did not wanted. >>> >>> You see for Brick we need >>> Button >>> CheckBox >>> DropList >>> List >>> Table >>> Pane >>> InputField >>> Text >>> Scrollbar >>> Menu >>> And with that we can get a first Widget set. >>> But again without a roadmap I have some doubts. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephane Ducasse >>> <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Doru using comma for creating vectors is not really because it will >>>> just make the life of type inferencers more difficult. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Our team is working on a couple of projects that are relevant for the >>>>> core of Pharo, namely GT and Bloc/Brick. At ESUG we were asked by several >>>>> people, and Stef in particular, to make the progress on these projects >>>>> more transparent. To this end, we will start two streams of signals: >>>>> - fine grained info bits on out Twitter account (several times a week): >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom >>>>> - a less often but regular (probably every 2 weeks) activity log message >>>>> sent to this mailing list >>>>> >>>>> Please let us know if you see an issue with this. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, let’s start. >>>>> >>>>> Bloc: >>>>> - Over the past couple of weeks Alex worked on transformations and >>>>> measurements in the core system. It turns out that there was room for >>>>> quite a number of performance optimizations and for making the system >>>>> more debuggable. >>>>> - At the low level, this involved adding matrix and vector support. >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/923123870537863168 >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/916300180848349185 >>>>> - At a higher level, it implies keeping track of measurements >>>>> https://twitter.com/AliakseiSyrel/status/915203525931622400 >>>>> - And of transformations: >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/919603739656417281 >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/917116164484096001 >>>>> - The BlScalableElement is now working properly >>>>> >>>>> GT Examples: >>>>> - The current repository with unary-based examples is at: >>>>> https://github.com/feenkcom/gtoolkit-examples >>>>> - We now have a runner in the inspector that allows us to both see the >>>>> source code and run and play with the resulting object: >>>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/923210686204989442 >>>>> - Andrei made the “after” behavior to work with unary examples. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> The feenk team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>> >>>>> "Being happy is a matter of choice." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Don't give to get. Just give."