> Am 11.07.2018 um 20:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 19:50, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Sven. That fixed my first problem. Sadly the other problem is more 
>> persitent than this. 
> 
> I would guess that the other problem (the ZipArchive usage) might be related 
> to the recent file/stream changes in Pharo 7 and not related to the loading 
> of Zinc. The bug might be a binary/text stream mixup or the usage of 
> deprecated code.
> 
That’d be my guess, too. Unfortunately it occurs where debugging is difficult. 

Norbert

>> Norbert
>> 
>>> Am 11.07.2018 um 16:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I created a new #stable version 2.9.3 that includes a newer 
>>> Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.16 - maybe this helps.
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> Name: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.16
>>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe
>>> Time: 11 July 2018, 4:30:36.923152 pm
>>> UUID: 830fbcd3-1b2d-0d00-bd45-164704867404
>>> Ancestors: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.15
>>> 
>>> Force an update (class comment changed)
>>> ===
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 09:17, Max Leske <maxle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 8:48, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Max,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks for taking the effort.
>>>> 
>>>> No worries.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 10.07.2018 um 08:37 schrieb Max Leske <maxle...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did my best to reproduce the issue but didn't have any luck. I really 
>>>>>> need access to a Linux VM to debug this. So I'm praying that Apple fixes 
>>>>>> the access restrictions to kernel extensions in their next beta...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, Metacello uses ZnClient, which uses ZnFileSystemUtils, so there is 
>>>>>> indeed a chance that something goes wrong during download of the zip 
>>>>>> archive and that something may be tied to a difference in the versions 
>>>>>> of Zinc (although I still think that's unlikely).
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes there is potential but I don‘t see it. I take a fresh 6.1 image and 
>>>>> load my project into. I‘m not sure but I think zinc 2.9.2 is loaded 
>>>>> rather early in that process. So I wonder why it does not go wrong in the 
>>>>> first phase. And also not if I load the test group within the first phase.
>>>>> It must be either the second Metacello invocation or the stopping, 
>>>>> copying and starting of the image.
>>>>> I try to isolate this case more and provide a script that goes wrong on 
>>>>> my machine. But it will take some time because I needed to stop trying to 
>>>>> solve this as I wasted nearly two days on that already.
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know once you have something and I'll try to help out.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Norbert
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 19:43, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 09.07.2018 um 19:10 schrieb Max Leske <maxle...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I checked the Parasol Archive and it does not appear to be in Zip64 
>>>>>>> format (Metacello uses ZipArchive which can't cope with Zip64 but 
>>>>>>> ZipArchive can read the Parasol zip). So my next guess is that there's 
>>>>>>> either a problem with Metacello or Pharo in the way that ZipArchive is 
>>>>>>> used (e.g. endianness problem or non-binary stream data). It would 
>>>>>>> therefore be helpful to find out what happens in ZipArchive>>readFrom:, 
>>>>>>> i.e. what kind of stream is passed / opened, is it binary, does the 
>>>>>>> file exist and is it still the correct file.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I couldn’t see anything obvious. The file in the debug message exists, 
>>>>>> it is a readable zip file. The way Metacello uses it it is a 
>>>>>> StandardFileStream. It switches it to binary in the code.
>>>>>> But the only difference between a working and non-working build is the 
>>>>>> upgrade to zinc 2.9.2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd debug it myself but I can't run VirtualBox at the moment because 
>>>>>>> I'm on the macOS beta and it won't start...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 18:31, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Max,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 09.07.2018 um 18:18 schrieb Max Leske <maxle...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Norbert,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is a bit of a guess, but it's possible that the archive that is 
>>>>>>>> downloaded from github is in Zip64 format and that the libraries for 
>>>>>>>> extracting Zip64 are missing on your Linux. That would of course 
>>>>>>>> contradict the experience that the same operation appears to work in 
>>>>>>>> 6.1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> to be honest I don’t know what Zip64 format is. I thought the Zip 
>>>>>>> classes are pure smalltalk for unpacking.
>>>>>>>> Try extracting the archive manually on your Linux machine with the 
>>>>>>>> same method that Metacello uses (I assume, Metacello uses the 
>>>>>>>> ZipPlugin, which will probably use the system libraries).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have no ZipPlugin as library in any of my vms.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But there are zips downloaded and unpacked. I start the image the first 
>>>>>>> time loading all the code of my project. Then it is saved, copied to a 
>>>>>>> new name and reopened to load the tests and then it fails. I did try to 
>>>>>>> load the tests in the first run and then it works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m running out of ideas
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 17:14, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With the help of Esteban I got one step further. If I do
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> MCWorkingCopy
>>>>>>>>     managersForClass: ZnFileSystemUtils
>>>>>>>>     do: [ :each | each ancestry initialize ]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> before loading my project it updates Zinc-FileSystem as well. Sadly it 
>>>>>>>> still does not work for me because I get
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Loading baseline of BaselineOfMobilityMap...
>>>>>>>> ...RETRY->BaselineOfParasol
>>>>>>>> ...RETRY->BaselineOfParasolError: can't find EOCD position
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and I don’t know why. zip file is downloaded from github and present 
>>>>>>>> but it fails and only on my jenkins on linux. On my Mac this works.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I try a few things but then I’m back on pharo6.1 for the time being :(
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:28 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Really? I thought the same but then I didn’t believe it works like 
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anyway this would be very easy to solve. We just need to ask Sven if 
>>>>>>>>> he is fine with doing an empty .16 version for Zinc-FileSystem and 
>>>>>>>>> does an in-place version reset of 2.9.2 or a new 2.9.3. I’m not fully 
>>>>>>>>> convinced that will solve it but the cost won’t be very high.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:22 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot 
>>>>>>>>>>> <cyril.ferli...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Need to investigate more. There are two .15 versions but there is 1 
>>>>>>>>>>> year in between (if you didn’t notice TheIntegratior.15 is from 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017). Just want to have more context information because I can 
>>>>>>>>>>> only see that this is strange but lacking insight.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m trying to figure out why it does not update Zinc-FileSystem. No 
>>>>>>>>>>> matter what I do I cannot get Metacello to load the newer package. 
>>>>>>>>>>> That would fix the issue because I’m loading 2.9.2 which should 
>>>>>>>>>>> have Zinc-FileSystem-SVC.15 and not stay on the one included in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is important for everyone that has a product based on 
>>>>>>>>>>> 6.1 and that want to migrate someday to pharo7. This way it is 
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible to do it step by step.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If there is a package .15 in the image and a package .15 in the 
>>>>>>>>>> repo, I think Metacello will not update because it rely on the 
>>>>>>>>>> numbers to know when to update. If it find a .15 and currently have 
>>>>>>>>>> a .15 I think Metacello will think they are at the same version.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Cyril Ferlicot
>>>>>>>>>> https://ferlicot.fr
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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