Hi, it’s „highly probably“ somewhere in the territorry of poor understanding, but I wouldn’t blame language (don’t pretend to be obtuse when you want to be sneakily subversive).
I explicitly stated that fighting against _actual_ slavery is better done by other means / elsewhere. Fighting against percieved shadows („extreme right vocabulary“; or nomenclature that never hurt no-one) is just divisive, and counter-productive on a programming language mailing-list. You can’t erase history, and that some words that had negative connotations in the past are used for new, entirely unrelated purposes today is no wonder. As, of course, you can’t be bothered to know, I’m member of one of those nations called „Slavic“ (.cz in my mail address). You know, you pretender, nations who were enslaved so frequently that the word „slave“ came from our enslavement. Do I have a tendency to blame „heirs“ of those who enslaved us in the past ? Do I cringe every time the word slave is uttered ? Do you know that some brainwashed individuals in our nation, in sync with todays brainwashing, tried to push the narrative that we (our nation), were colonizers as well ? NO. No-one is gonna make me feel like a victim (or an abuser) because of what happened in the past, before my father was born, etc. Go fight you windmills, Don Q., I just hope the rest of the community won’t let themselves be pulled into it. M.R. From: Steven Costiou <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:08 PM To: Pharo Development List <[email protected]> Cc: Rauš Miloslav <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: Metacello / Iceberg / GitHub master to main renaming Le 2021-07-19 16:54, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> a écrit : Maybe it's worth putting something in an faq - that we support the intent of the master to main naming convention That's pretty counter-productive. It would be just empty virtue-signalling response to an empty virtue-signalling gesture (that of MS/Github pushing master->main transition). The change would bring absolutely nothing to no-one (except a lot of needless work/friction; and an inroad for future woke incursions). Whomever is having problem with slavery can fight modern-day slavery in ie. Africa / China / etc or sex trafficking in their own country. I'm a bit sorry if I misinterpret what you say because of my poor understanding of english. But I would answer that whomever having a problem with fighting slavery in general should leave the community. Anyone also using and supporting extreme right vocabulary (e.g. "woke") should leave the community. If that's trolling, all the same. If I misinterpreted (non-native english speaker), I am sorry, and probably you will agree with me and there is no need for dicussion. Steven. I'd prefer either nothing in the FAQ, or finite statement to the tune of "no wokeness, we are about merit and not about empty gestures". Of course I expect cowardice & virtue-signalling to win in the end, but at least I tried. M.R. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 1:14 PM To: Pharo Development List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: Metacello / Iceberg / GitHub master to main renaming Maybe it's worth putting something in an faq - that we support the intent of the master to main naming convention, but that as we are a small community trying to improve many aspects of 50 years of development, this one had to unfortunately take a back seat for the moment while we simplify other things to make this an easier change? Tim On 19 Jul 2021, at 12:26, stephane ducasse <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sven From that perspective this master to main change will cost us a lot of problem. I decided to continue to configure all my repositories to use master and I will do it for any repository that is related to pharo and that people may use. Just to remove such kind of friction. I would encourage people to do the same like that we do not have to think. S On 12 Jul 2021, at 14:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, For new GitHub projects the default branch is now main instead of master. There is however code in Metacello / Iceberg / ... that tries a number of options if no branch is specified, but it is not yet aware of this change. Specifically: This does not work ./pharo reddit.image metacello install github://svenvc/Reddit BaselineOfReddit instead you have to say ./pharo reddit.image metacello install github://svenvc/Reddit:main/ BaselineOfReddit It took me half an hour to figure this out ;-) Sven
