Fun enough I got the same feeling. Do you remember this etoy 3.8  
release that should have been done fast and
last more than a couple of month and after no communication with 3.9  
at all. Or the fork of Croquet.
So Marcus do not worry I can tell you that we are not paranoid and I  
will not let anybody damage us.
And now we are even considered as the bad guy not wanted to merge....
I believe that people gets afraid by Pharo or have time to show us  
that we are wrong (of course some may want to
really collaborate).

For now I will not discuss that point anymore on this list because we  
do not make any progress and
we do not have to justify ourselves.

>>> The croquet people namely (andreas) are on my case, and he clearly
>> gets
>> this concept since he based his "running for the board" email on it.
>>
>> The cobalt people = matthew and others, they "get it", and are using
>> some of the tools, and proposing common libraries.
>>
>> Bertf has expressed an interest in etoys moving up to 3.10+ if the
>> transition can be eased.

I'm curious to see what they would gain.
And as if merging two streams would be that easy.

>>
>
> So interestingly, all these peope never had *any* interest in   
> cooperating on anything.
>
> Etoys ignored 3.9 *completely*. (and all my activity to merge etoys   
> back before that was always done not with that much enthusiasm from  
> their side. I  got some bit of help from Bert and Michael, but the  
> activity always came from  my side).
>
> Andreas disapeared for years (just to pee on us for a good laugh  
> on   and off).
>
> So I really wonder why they all changed their mind suddenly.  
> Seriously.
>
>       Marcus


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