Keith,

The water is warm, but you will find us determined to fix what bugs us.  If you 
accuse us of snubbing contributions, you miss the spirit of a much needed 
cleaning.

Bill



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hodges
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A point a.k.a excuse to you

Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Keith,
>
> Call it Squeak or Pharo, I (and apparently many others here) want a clean 
> Smalltalk.  Kernel+packages is fine; I could also live with a well-factored 
> big image from which I simply chop out things I do not need.  If the system 
> is good, I will adapt to the ways people chose to give it to me.
>
> You apparently want Squeak. 
No I dont want squeak, I want an environment in which contributions and
concepts are appreciated, and shareable. I want this "not invented here"
attitude scrapped.

To be clear, I wrote SUnit-improved 3 years ago. I wasn't so arrogant as
to say it is "The" SUnit. that everyone should use, I offered it as an
alternativeand it has remained loadable from universes. The code may not
be perfect but the concepts were perfectly reasonable:

1. Non GUI Test Runner, for use in an automated remote build system.
2. Classification of tests - for a world in which there are different
forks images etc so that test suites can be a shared knowledge base of
what works where.
3. A flexible test suite building interface that can be used to run
other test suites like SSpec within the same tools.
4. A Cleaner Organisation under the category "Testing" e.g.
"Testing-Common, Testing-Commmon-GUI, Testing-SUnit-Tests,
Testing-SSpec-Tests etc.

So... along comes pharo, and without any discussion at all in the
general SUnit users forum, starts to "do their own thing with SUnit".

Well thanks for nothing, it really makes you feel like contributing. Its
not squeak that is the black hole, squeak isn't actively snubbing
contributions.

Keith
 


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