Keith, Call it Squeak or Pharo, I (and apparently many others here) want a clean Smalltalk. Kernel+packages is fine; I could also live with a well-factored big image from which I simply chop out things I do not need. If the system is good, I will adapt to the ways people chose to give it to me.
You apparently want Squeak. We want things fixed and options embraced. Years on, those things are still off in the distance for Squeak. I doubt that would ever change without Pharo. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hodges Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A point a.k.a excuse to you Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > It strikes me (disagree if you feel the need) that Pharo can do all of the > fun-goofy-crazy stuff that people want to protect (at cost) in Squeak. I > forget who it was, but one Squeaker essentially said to me "don't break our > toy." All I wanted was what Pharo is rapidly becoming: a robust system with > good tools and themed feel. You want focus jumping all over - fine, just > make it optional so my users don't have to live with it. Pharo is doing just > that and more. > > This will really stir the pudding in some minds: I think the best thing that > could happen is that Squeak 6.0 == Pharo 3.0 plus packages to do whatever > Squeak needs that Where do you get this Squeak6.0 =Pharo3.0 + packages. The vision for moving squeak forward has been Squeak Small Kernel + Packages for several years now. If Squeak6.0 (kernel) + packges = Pharo3.0 + packages then I will be a happy person. The problem with it is that Pharo will have a Pharo package system, a Pharo SUinit, a Pharo Compiler, and a Pharo GUI, and none of the packages will work between squeak and pharo. Keith _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
