Mariano,

That's a very good idea and useful also for us practitioners to get and
implement some new ideas from theoretic works out there. So I am for
this new mailing list!

Janko

On 30. 01. 2010 14:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I
> first wanted to ask you what do you think.
> 
> I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing
> about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and
> please tell me where is it.
> 
> I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we
> can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the
> beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I
> though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of
> all flavors can join and discuss.
> 
> The main purpose about that list is:
> 
> - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in
> general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper
> that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all
> professional and I think we can discuss with respect.
> - LEARN.
> 
> Other uses:
> - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read
> that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it.
> - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning
> - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper.
> - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can
> meet people, join forces, etc.
> - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops,
> conferences, and so on
> - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to
> review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help.
> - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some
> papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ?
> - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a conference/workshop
> - Educate people and being educated
> - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code
> for example
> - Discuss about research in general
> - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic,
> I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work.
> - others
> 
> I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about
> LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from  ECOOP 1986 
> (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's
> goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM
> was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some
> chapters of the blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I have
> ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe
> there is someone who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows
> what happened, if it worked really or not, the advantages and drawbacks,
> the repercussion it had, etc. That information, those opinions, you
> cannot get it from other place.
> 
> So, what do you think?  Do you like the idea or has no sense ?    If you
> like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all
> Smalltalk mailing lists I know.
> 
> In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mariano


-- 
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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