How would we name that mailing list? smalltalk-theory ? Janko
On 30. 01. 2010 16:18, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > +1 > > Stef > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > >> Mariano, >> >> That's a very good idea and useful also for us practitioners to get and >> implement some new ideas from theoretic works out there. So I am for >> this new mailing list! >> >> Janko >> >> On 30. 01. 2010 14:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I >>> first wanted to ask you what do you think. >>> >>> I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing >>> about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and >>> please tell me where is it. >>> >>> I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we >>> can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the >>> beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I >>> though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of >>> all flavors can join and discuss. >>> >>> The main purpose about that list is: >>> >>> - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in >>> general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper >>> that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all >>> professional and I think we can discuss with respect. >>> - LEARN. >>> >>> Other uses: >>> - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read >>> that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. >>> - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning >>> - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. >>> - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can >>> meet people, join forces, etc. >>> - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, >>> conferences, and so on >>> - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to >>> review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. >>> - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some >>> papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? >>> - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a conference/workshop >>> - Educate people and being educated >>> - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code >>> for example >>> - Discuss about research in general >>> - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic, >>> I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. >>> - others >>> >>> I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about >>> LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from ECOOP 1986 >>> (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's >>> goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM >>> was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some >>> chapters of the blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I have >>> ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe >>> there is someone who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows >>> what happened, if it worked really or not, the advantages and drawbacks, >>> the repercussion it had, etc. That information, those opinions, you >>> cannot get it from other place. >>> >>> So, what do you think? Do you like the idea or has no sense ? If you >>> like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all >>> Smalltalk mailing lists I know. >>> >>> In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
