2010/1/30 Janko Mivšek <[email protected]>

> How would we name that mailing list? smalltalk-theory ?
>
>
That was going to be my second question if you like the idea :)

List:

- smalltalk-research
- research-smalltalk
- lab-smalltalk
- smalltalk-lab
- smalltalk-theory
- theory-smalltalk

So..we have several options

Vote ?

Cheers

Mariano


> Janko
>
> On 30. 01. 2010 16:18, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > Stef
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:
> >
> >> Mariano,
> >>
> >> That's a very good idea and useful also for us practitioners to get and
> >> implement some new ideas from theoretic works out there. So I am for
> >> this new mailing list!
> >>
> >> Janko
> >>
> >> On 30. 01. 2010 14:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> >>> Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I
> >>> first wanted to ask you what do you think.
> >>>
> >>> I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing
> >>> about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and
> >>> please tell me where is it.
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we
> >>> can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the
> >>> beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I
> >>> though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of
> >>> all flavors can join and discuss.
> >>>
> >>> The main purpose about that list is:
> >>>
> >>> - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in
> >>> general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper
> >>> that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all
> >>> professional and I think we can discuss with respect.
> >>> - LEARN.
> >>>
> >>> Other uses:
> >>> - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read
> >>> that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it.
> >>> - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning
> >>> - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper.
> >>> - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We
> can
> >>> meet people, join forces, etc.
> >>> - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops,
> >>> conferences, and so on
> >>> - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to
> >>> review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that
> help.
> >>> - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some
> >>> papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ?
> >>> - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a
> conference/workshop
> >>> - Educate people and being educated
> >>> - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code
> >>> for example
> >>> - Discuss about research in general
> >>> - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX
> topic,
> >>> I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work.
> >>> - others
> >>>
> >>> I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about
> >>> LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from  ECOOP 1986
> >>> (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's
> >>> goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM
> >>> was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some
> >>> chapters of the blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I
> have
> >>> ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe
> >>> there is someone who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows
> >>> what happened, if it worked really or not, the advantages and
> drawbacks,
> >>> the repercussion it had, etc. That information, those opinions, you
> >>> cannot get it from other place.
> >>>
> >>> So, what do you think?  Do you like the idea or has no sense ?    If
> you
> >>> like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all
> >>> Smalltalk mailing lists I know.
> >>>
> >>> In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Mariano
>
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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