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Stef

On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:

> Mariano,
> 
> That's a very good idea and useful also for us practitioners to get and
> implement some new ideas from theoretic works out there. So I am for
> this new mailing list!
> 
> Janko
> 
> On 30. 01. 2010 14:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>> Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I
>> first wanted to ask you what do you think.
>> 
>> I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing
>> about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and
>> please tell me where is it.
>> 
>> I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we
>> can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the
>> beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I
>> though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of
>> all flavors can join and discuss.
>> 
>> The main purpose about that list is:
>> 
>> - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in
>> general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper
>> that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all
>> professional and I think we can discuss with respect.
>> - LEARN.
>> 
>> Other uses:
>> - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read
>> that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it.
>> - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning
>> - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper.
>> - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can
>> meet people, join forces, etc.
>> - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops,
>> conferences, and so on
>> - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to
>> review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help.
>> - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some
>> papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ?
>> - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a conference/workshop
>> - Educate people and being educated
>> - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code
>> for example
>> - Discuss about research in general
>> - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic,
>> I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work.
>> - others
>> 
>> I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about
>> LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from  ECOOP 1986 
>> (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's
>> goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM
>> was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some
>> chapters of the blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I have
>> ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe
>> there is someone who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows
>> what happened, if it worked really or not, the advantages and drawbacks,
>> the repercussion it had, etc. That information, those opinions, you
>> cannot get it from other place.
>> 
>> So, what do you think?  Do you like the idea or has no sense ?    If you
>> like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all
>> Smalltalk mailing lists I know.
>> 
>> In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Mariano
> 
> 
> -- 
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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