Em 06-12-2010 13:38, [email protected] escreveu: > James, > > The point of your post will surely be answered by other, and I'm sure you'll > find good stuff in STIC and ESUG websites. > > However, the purpose of yours surprises me: why do you think that having "a > popular and great IDE company" "supporting" Smalltalk is of any help? In the past there were "big companies" "supporting" smalltalk and the result was no good. If one reads some of smalltalk history he'll see a spectacle of greed & other bad doings and nasty mistakes by corporations.
The biggest problem with smalltalk itself was that it was far ahead its time. Now it's not. Further than that, when one sees things like CogVM coming to life (which enhances performance of applications) and things being developed in seaside and related tools (pier, magritte, etc) it becomes clear the advantages of adopting smalltalk, despite some issues are still recurrent like: the lack of a "foundation classes" definition (thus much of trunk/pharo/etc changing overtime and requiring constant attention and maintenance by developers) and lack of documentation (which is consequence of first issue). > Decoupling the Smalltalk environment from the "IDE" will make a Frankenstein > which will make the acronym 'IDE' look like an oxymoron... There are some implementations decoupled from IDEs. But in the end of the day everybody needs a browser, an inspector, a debugger, a workspace, a Transcript, etc... And nobody really needs to develop a "windows native", "X Windows native", "aqua/OS-X/iOS native" version of the same application (at least not that frequently). Anyways, if the intention is running an application with the "native interface" deactivated it's always possible to execute smalltalk headless. Regards CdAB > Regards, > > -- > Cesar Rabak > > Em 06/12/2010 03:51, James Ladd < [email protected] > escreveu: > > > While pleading for Smalltalk support with a developer from a popular and > great IDE company, I got the > > following response (below) > > > > Is there anything I can do/show to prove or disprove the popularity of > Smalltalk? > > > > Rgs, James. > > > > > >>> Hello James. >>> About Smalltalk plugin. Weel, I’m not sure Smalltalk has a big audience >>> now. I’ve never heard about commercial products based on Smalltalk. >>> Here, some statistics http://langpop.com/ >
