On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>wrote:
> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is > causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a > combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in > pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) > > In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but > there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very > big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I > think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the > carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version > didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those > efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will > happen any time soon, sadly :( > > This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least > those I can see now): > > 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with > almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) > 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without > them, but it will be nice :) > 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. > 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, > now) :) > > 5) it doesn't automatically detect http proxy ;) > cheers, > Esteban > > > El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribió: > > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >> > >> > On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >> >>>> >> >>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >> >>> >> >>> Very strange. >> >>> >> >>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >> >>> >> >> >> >> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >> >> >> >> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >> >> >> >> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly >> out of confusion...) >> >> >> >> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is >> which? >> >> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't >> we >> >> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >> >> >> >> Marcus >> > >> > its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >> >> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >> > > You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) > without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) > > >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> > > > -- > best, > Eliot > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
