yes, that would be very useful :) Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it.
El 08/07/2011, a las 11:14a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > Hi esteban > > would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM? > It will stress you but we will find bugs. > For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4 > > Stef > > > On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is >> causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a >> combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in >> pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) >> >> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but >> there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very >> big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I >> think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the >> carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version >> didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those >> efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will >> happen any time soon, sadly :( >> >> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least those >> I can see now): >> >> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with >> almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) >> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without >> them, but it will be nice :) >> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. >> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, >> now) :) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribió: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >>>>>> >>>>>> Very strange. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >>>>> >>>>> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >>>>> >>>>> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly >>>>> out of confusion...) >>>>> >>>>> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which? >>>>> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we >>>>> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >>> >>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >>> >>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) >>> without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> best, >>> Eliot >>> >> > >
