Hi esteban

would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM?
It will stress you but we will find bugs.
For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4

Stef


On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is 
> causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a 
> combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in 
> pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :)
> 
> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but 
> there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very 
> big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I 
> think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the 
> carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version 
> didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those 
> efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will 
> happen any time soon, sadly :(
> 
> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least those 
> I can see now):
> 
> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with 
> almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x)
> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without 
> them, but it will be nice :)
> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. 
> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, 
> now) :)
> 
> cheers,
> Esteban
> 
> 
> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribió:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog.
>> >>>>
>> >>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang...
>> >>>
>> >>> Very strange.
>> >>>
>> >>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug.
>> >>
>> >> It only happens with the Cocoa VM.
>> >>
>> >> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly 
>> >> out of  confusion...)
>> >>
>> >> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which?
>> >> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we
>> >> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"?
>> >>
>> >>      Marcus
>> >
>> > its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :)
>> 
>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do?
>> 
>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) without 
>> carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;)
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Marcus Denker  -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> best,
>> Eliot
>> 
> 


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