> yes, that would be very useful :) > Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it.
Excellent I will try it. Should I take it from jenkins? Stef > > El 08/07/2011, a las 11:14a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > >> Hi esteban >> >> would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM? >> It will stress you but we will find bugs. >> For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4 >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is >>> causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a >>> combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in >>> pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) >>> >>> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but >>> there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not >>> very big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some >>> remain). I think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are >>> working on the carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: >>> cocao version didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love >>> to join those efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I >>> don't think it will happen any time soon, sadly :( >>> >>> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least >>> those I can see now): >>> >>> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with >>> almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) >>> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without >>> them, but it will be nice :) >>> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. >>> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, >>> now) :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribió: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very strange. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly >>>>>> out of confusion...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which? >>>>>> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we >>>>>> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >>>> >>>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >>>> >>>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) >>>> without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> best, >>>> Eliot >>>> >>> >> >> > >
