On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Andy Bower once compared an image to a "messy bedroom" - (paraphrasing the > rest), e.g. one that maybe does not look all that great, but the occupant > knows where to find everything. The biggest problem I have with images is > that they start to work for me and I don't want to change them. > > It seems to be a universal argument among Smalltalkers: save things in the > image vs. know exactly how to build the image and do so every day. The > latter has the advantage of not requiring lots of archeology to discover what > makes something work. One argument against saving images is that they can > get damaged over time. I have had reasonable luck in avoiding ugliness. In > part, I know that some things (e.g. running new FFI code) are dangerous and > can corrupt an image or just plain crash the vm. So, I get things ready to > run the suspect code, save, and then run/exit/edit/save until I have > something that work. > > Stef, I wish you luck in reaching your kernel and scripting language. It > would be really nice if the system can still save images. It will :)
> > Dolphin's licensing more or less requires that applications be deployed > differently than development images. I have had success making a Pharo image > work as an end-user application, but it is a somewhat clunky process. It > would be nice to have something that takes care of the details (saving the > image elsewhere, locking it, etc.) using a wizard interface. Too many ideas, > too little time... yes same here :) > > Bill > > > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] > [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse > [[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OT: Dart > > Indeed I always felt stupid :) > But now I also want a mall kernel and scripting syntax (and a image one > demand only). > So :) > > Stef > >> >> Note one sneaky thing: using an image as means of deployment: >> http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/10/google-dart-language mentions "Dart >> comes with tools to create an image of the heap of an application and >> package it into an optimized format which can be loaded nearly >> instantly, reminiscient of Smalltalk's image system." >> >> Funny, given the number of arguments Smalltalkers have with people >> over the use of images. >> >> frank >> >>> On 10 October 2011 14:43, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Google published the first information about Dart: >>>> http://www.dartlang.org/ >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >>> >> > > >
