Ok, thanks. I'll give it another shot then. I've no big problem grasping Metacello concepts: I've modularized a 400 KSLOC Java source tree with Maven POM, including parent POMs, Maven Proxy repository and associated visualizations. (Shameless plug: http://philippeback.eu/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3)
The key to all this is to invest time (lots) so that everything falls together nicely (remove dupes, run a ton of tests etc). Your imagebuilder idea provides an additional level: the ability to load everything from start to finish in a starting point. This evokes make clean; make; make install to me. Which is good: build everything in an automated step. The Pharo team scores quite well on the Joel Test if you ask me: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html Phil 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > >> There is a comment on your blog article asking for details :-) >> >> > Yes, I answerd it. But I think over another post (sorry, mistake) > Here is the answer: > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-systembrowser/#comment-373 > > Cheers > > >> >> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM, [email protected] >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Not forgotten :-) >>>> >>>> BTW, This Builder thing of yours deserves a chapter in PBE2. >>>> >>>> >>> I think the idea is really really cool. However, after several months I >>> noticed Metacello is not ready for that :( >>> See: http://forum.world.st/WTF-td4557982.html >>> Dale says that next version of Metacello may help for that...so maybe we >>> are lucky. >>> >>> >>>> I volunteer to help once I'll get a simple thing working on my side. >>>> Which I failed to get so far. >>>> >>>> >>> That would be nice. Let me know if I can help you with the failure. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> for having a search bar, you can give Spotlight a try. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>> squeaksource: 'Spotlight'; >>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfSpotlight'; >>>>>> load. >>>>>> (ConfigurationOfSpotlight project version: #bleedingEdge) load. >>>>>> >>>>>> then, just press shift+enter :) >>>>>> >>>>>> is not finished (because nobody is using it but me, he) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do not forget me ;) >>>>> In fact, I vote for including Spotlight in Pharo 2.0 (and remove it >>>>> from #cleanUpForProduction) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> , but it is useful... it is just a OCompletion bar resembling >>>>>> spotlight from macs. >>>>>> >>>>>> best, >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, Nautilus is ubernice. Especially given the forthcoming search >>>>>> bar :-p >>>>>> >>>>>> The help panel cutting the bottom pane in two is all right but then, >>>>>> could we have it with a smaller font? I drives me nuts to have to scroll >>>>>> down there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/4/22 Sean P. DeNigris <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, Nautilus is *really* fun to use! I have quite a few ideas for >>>>>>> plugins... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A few suggestions... >>>>>>> * Hierarchical package list - also, since with Metacello the >>>>>>> convention is >>>>>>> (e.g. P-Core, P-UI, P-Tests) with no overarching package, it should >>>>>>> group >>>>>>> all packages matching P-*, even if they are technically separate >>>>>>> packages >>>>>>> * I miss the search bar from OB where I could just start typing as >>>>>>> soon as I >>>>>>> opened the window. It seems that Nautilus doesn't set the keyboard >>>>>>> focus >>>>>>> anywhere useful. Options: >>>>>>> - search bar >>>>>>> - typing brings up the class search dialog >>>>>>> - give keyboard focus to the package list so I can use the >>>>>>> shortcuts right >>>>>>> away. This may be the best one because I have access to 3 options: >>>>>>> - cmd-F to search packages >>>>>>> - cmd-f to search classes >>>>>>> - start typing to do a basic package search >>>>>>> * creating new methods - when you click a protocol name, the >>>>>>> "messageSelectorAndArgumentNames" template is displayed in the code >>>>>>> pane, >>>>>>> and is pre-selected. I found this very confusing as a newbie because >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> selection made me think that I could start typing to replace the >>>>>>> template, >>>>>>> but the keyboard focus is not on the template. It's also useless >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> when you click on the code pane, it unselects, so you have to >>>>>>> double-click >>>>>>> anyway. Two suggestions >>>>>>> - from the class pane, protocol pane, or both, have an "add method" >>>>>>> menu >>>>>>> item that transfers focus to the preselected template >>>>>>> - when just clicking on a protocol, don't pre-select the template >>>>>>> * back/forward buttons for history navigation? >>>>>>> * a centralized place to put/list plugins so we can share them >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks to Benjamin. This was sorely needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-first-impression-tp4578301p4578301.html >>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Philippe Back >>>>>> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >>>>>> >>>>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>>>> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>>>> http://philippeback.be >>>>>> >>>>>> High Octane SPRL >>>>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>>>> 1301 Bierges >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mariano >>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Philippe Back >>>> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >>>> >>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>> http://philippeback.be >>>> >>>> High Octane SPRL >>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>> 1301 Bierges >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Philippe Back >> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >> >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> http://philippeback.be >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> 1301 Bierges >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: [email protected]| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
