> I'll give it another shot then. I've no big problem grasping Metacello 
> concepts: I've modularized a 400 KSLOC Java source tree with Maven POM, 
> including parent POMs, Maven Proxy repository and associated visualizations. 
> (Shameless plug: http://philippeback.eu/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3)
> 
> The key to all this is to invest time (lots) so that everything falls 
> together nicely (remove dupes, run a ton of tests etc).
> 
> Your imagebuilder idea provides an additional level: the ability to load 
> everything from start to finish in a starting point. This evokes make clean; 
> make; make install to me. Which is good: build everything in an automated 
> step.


We are getting there for pharo :)
We will migrate the script loader to use metacello and we will start having 
configurations for pharo core.

When I see that I invited a guy to talk about cruise control in 2002 to wake up 
the smalltalk community...

> The Pharo team scores quite well on the Joel Test if you ask me: 
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> There is a comment on your blog article asking for details :-)
> 
> 
> Yes, I answerd it. But I think over another post (sorry, mistake)
> Here is the answer: 
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-systembrowser/#comment-373
> 
> Cheers
>  
> 
> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Not forgotten :-)
> 
> BTW, This Builder thing of yours deserves a chapter in PBE2.
> 
> 
> I think the idea is really really cool. However, after several months I 
> noticed Metacello is not ready for that :(
> See: http://forum.world.st/WTF-td4557982.html
> Dale says that next version of Metacello may help for that...so maybe we are 
> lucky. 
>  
> I volunteer to help once I'll get a simple thing working on my side. Which I 
> failed to get so far.
> 
> 
> That would be nice. Let me know if I can help you with the failure. 
> 
>  
> Phil
> 
> 
> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> for having a search bar, you can give Spotlight a try.
> 
> Gofer it
>       squeaksource: 'Spotlight';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfSpotlight';
>       load.
> (ConfigurationOfSpotlight project version: #bleedingEdge) load.
> 
> then, just press shift+enter :)
> 
> is not finished (because nobody is using it but me, he)
> 
> Do not forget me ;)  
> In fact, I vote for including Spotlight in Pharo 2.0 (and remove it from 
> #cleanUpForProduction)
> 
>  
> , but it is useful... it is just a OCompletion bar resembling spotlight from 
> macs. 
> 
> best,
> Esteban
> 
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Yes, Nautilus is ubernice. Especially given the forthcoming search bar :-p
>> 
>> The help panel cutting the bottom pane in two is all right but then, could 
>> we have it with a smaller font? I drives me nuts to have to scroll down 
>> there.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> 2012/4/22 Sean P. DeNigris <[email protected]>
>> Wow, Nautilus is *really* fun to use! I have quite a few ideas for plugins...
>> 
>> A few suggestions...
>> * Hierarchical package list - also, since with Metacello the convention is
>> (e.g. P-Core, P-UI, P-Tests) with no overarching package, it should group
>> all packages matching P-*, even if they are technically separate packages
>> * I miss the search bar from OB where I could just start typing as soon as I
>> opened the window. It seems that Nautilus doesn't set the keyboard focus
>> anywhere useful. Options:
>>  - search bar
>>  - typing brings up the class search dialog
>>  - give keyboard focus to the package list so I can use the shortcuts right
>> away. This may be the best one because I have access to 3 options:
>>    - cmd-F to search packages
>>    - cmd-f to search classes
>>    - start typing to do a basic package search
>> * creating new methods - when you click a protocol name, the
>> "messageSelectorAndArgumentNames" template is displayed in the code pane,
>> and is pre-selected. I found this very confusing as a newbie because the
>> selection made me think that I could start typing to replace the template,
>> but the keyboard focus is not on the template. It's also useless because
>> when you click on the code pane, it unselects, so you have to double-click
>> anyway. Two suggestions
>>  - from the class pane, protocol pane, or both, have an "add method" menu
>> item that transfers focus to the preselected template
>>  - when just clicking on a protocol, don't pre-select the template
>> * back/forward buttons for history navigation?
>> * a centralized place to put/list plugins so we can share them
>> 
>> Many thanks to Benjamin. This was sorely needed!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context: 
>> http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-first-impression-tp4578301p4578301.html
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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