I've got access to the SVN for PBE2 and read about all of the content. My LaTeX skills are rusty at best. I am more of a DocBook guy :-)
Anyway, learning that as well since I noticed quite a number of missing bits about TextMorph, MorphTreeMorph (this one's a beast) and maybe some of my investigations may prove useful material. KR Phil 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM, [email protected] > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Ok, thanks. >> >> I'll give it another shot then. I've no big problem grasping Metacello >> concepts: I've modularized a 400 KSLOC Java source tree with Maven POM, >> including parent POMs, >> > > I know the effor for that, since I have also experiened quite large java > projects with complex maven configurations. > > >> Maven Proxy repository and associated visualizations. (Shameless plug: >> http://philippeback.eu/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3) >> >> > well, not that much ;) btw... looks like you own a nice company :) > > >> The key to all this is to invest time (lots) so that everything falls >> together nicely (remove dupes, run a ton of tests etc). >> >> > Exactlly. And it is not only to make it work, but you really need to > understand the tool. For Maven I remember reading abook about it. For > Metacello you can read the chapter we wrote with Stef. > > >> Your imagebuilder idea provides an additional level: the ability to >> load everything from start to finish in a starting point. This evokes make >> clean; make; make install to me. Which is good: build everything in an >> automated step. >> > > Exactly. In my slides of the talk you can see my own motivations behind > it: > http://www.slideshare.net/MarianoMartinezPeck/building-you-own-images-with-metacello-smalltalks-2011 > > >> >> The Pharo team scores quite well on the Joel Test if you ask me: >> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html >> >> > Interesting. > > >> Phil >> >> >> >> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, [email protected] >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> There is a comment on your blog article asking for details :-) >>>> >>>> >>> Yes, I answerd it. But I think over another post (sorry, mistake) >>> Here is the answer: >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-systembrowser/#comment-373 >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not forgotten :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, This Builder thing of yours deserves a chapter in PBE2. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I think the idea is really really cool. However, after several months >>>>> I noticed Metacello is not ready for that :( >>>>> See: http://forum.world.st/WTF-td4557982.html >>>>> Dale says that next version of Metacello may help for that...so maybe >>>>> we are lucky. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I volunteer to help once I'll get a simple thing working on my side. >>>>>> Which I failed to get so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> That would be nice. Let me know if I can help you with the failure. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/4/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for having a search bar, you can give Spotlight a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Spotlight'; >>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfSpotlight'; >>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>> (ConfigurationOfSpotlight project version: #bleedingEdge) load. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then, just press shift+enter :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is not finished (because nobody is using it but me, he) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do not forget me ;) >>>>>>> In fact, I vote for including Spotlight in Pharo 2.0 (and remove it >>>>>>> from #cleanUpForProduction) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , but it is useful... it is just a OCompletion bar resembling >>>>>>>> spotlight from macs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> best, >>>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, Nautilus is ubernice. Especially given the forthcoming search >>>>>>>> bar :-p >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The help panel cutting the bottom pane in two is all right but >>>>>>>> then, could we have it with a smaller font? I drives me nuts to have to >>>>>>>> scroll down there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2012/4/22 Sean P. DeNigris <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wow, Nautilus is *really* fun to use! I have quite a few ideas for >>>>>>>>> plugins... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A few suggestions... >>>>>>>>> * Hierarchical package list - also, since with Metacello the >>>>>>>>> convention is >>>>>>>>> (e.g. P-Core, P-UI, P-Tests) with no overarching package, it >>>>>>>>> should group >>>>>>>>> all packages matching P-*, even if they are technically separate >>>>>>>>> packages >>>>>>>>> * I miss the search bar from OB where I could just start typing as >>>>>>>>> soon as I >>>>>>>>> opened the window. It seems that Nautilus doesn't set the keyboard >>>>>>>>> focus >>>>>>>>> anywhere useful. Options: >>>>>>>>> - search bar >>>>>>>>> - typing brings up the class search dialog >>>>>>>>> - give keyboard focus to the package list so I can use the >>>>>>>>> shortcuts right >>>>>>>>> away. This may be the best one because I have access to 3 options: >>>>>>>>> - cmd-F to search packages >>>>>>>>> - cmd-f to search classes >>>>>>>>> - start typing to do a basic package search >>>>>>>>> * creating new methods - when you click a protocol name, the >>>>>>>>> "messageSelectorAndArgumentNames" template is displayed in the >>>>>>>>> code pane, >>>>>>>>> and is pre-selected. I found this very confusing as a newbie >>>>>>>>> because the >>>>>>>>> selection made me think that I could start typing to replace the >>>>>>>>> template, >>>>>>>>> but the keyboard focus is not on the template. It's also useless >>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>> when you click on the code pane, it unselects, so you have to >>>>>>>>> double-click >>>>>>>>> anyway. Two suggestions >>>>>>>>> - from the class pane, protocol pane, or both, have an "add >>>>>>>>> method" menu >>>>>>>>> item that transfers focus to the preselected template >>>>>>>>> - when just clicking on a protocol, don't pre-select the template >>>>>>>>> * back/forward buttons for history navigation? >>>>>>>>> * a centralized place to put/list plugins so we can share them >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Benjamin. This was sorely needed! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-first-impression-tp4578301p4578301.html >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Philippe Back >>>>>>>> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>>>>>> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>>>>>> http://philippeback.be >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> High Octane SPRL >>>>>>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>>>>>> 1301 Bierges >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Philippe Back >>>>>> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >>>>>> >>>>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>>>> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>>>> http://philippeback.be >>>>>> >>>>>> High Octane SPRL >>>>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>>>> 1301 Bierges >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mariano >>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Philippe Back >>>> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >>>> >>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>> http://philippeback.be >>>> >>>> High Octane SPRL >>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>> 1301 Bierges >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Philippe Back >> "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" >> >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> [email protected] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> http://philippeback.be >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> 1301 Bierges >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: [email protected]| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
