I fail to see what is user friendly about Monticello , I find its GUI and the total workflow really bad, certainly the worst VCS GUI I have ever used. But I will admit this is my personal taste and my opinion that can be safely ignore.
StHub on the other hand is whole different situation. My criticism about StHub unlike Monticello are not opinion based, they are fact based, StHub is unmaintaned , with the usual failures prompting Esteban to reset the whole thing and lacking the most fundamental features like a sophisticated search facility and any form of browsing. I could go on, but I think the shortcomings are obvious. That's no bashing, its a statement of facts. On the subject of file based code, I wonder what you use for Pharo VCS because the default Pharo VCS is basically zip (mcz extension) files containing source code files , the usual text files with the "st" extension. If you mean the fact of actually worrying about the files themselves, the only worrying you do with Git is for the gitignore file (if you actually use one) that basically there can be listed what files or directories should be ignored by Git. The rest are done automagically by Filetree, GitFileTree or in my case my Git GUI client. I also never said "Do not use Pharo VCS" , if that is what rocks your boat, but to actual claim that Pharo VCS is more reliable, easier to use and more powerful would require a huge leap of faith because from the very first experience it pretty crystal clear that is not. And there is not just Git, there are plenty of other VCS out there that are just light years ahead, some probably better than Git. But I have no problem if some people prefer to use the old VCS instead of Git. I am not here to impose my workflow and I never stated that we should. As a matter of fact I do not mind any choice the community makes as long as I have freedom to choose my own tools and my own workflow. On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:10 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 14 Jan 2017, at 00:48, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < > offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > > > > On STHub, fortunately is live enough to let some of us being productive > without the noise of git in front. > > So true. > > Let's stop bashing StHub: it works fine for 1000s of projects. I know we > are building something new and I am all for it, but as long as it is not as > user friendly as Monticello (all operations clean and simple in Pharo, > reliably) we are not there yet. > > The point is: we all know how to use git, but most Pharo developers don't > want to deal with file based Pharo code, at all, ever. > > Sven >
