Yeah, ok. But please do not take this thread as a way to defend/criticise other dialects (we all know there is a lot of passion around). My intention is more to ask “what is cool of dialect X that you would like Pharo to have too” or “how can we make Pharo to be as beautiful and/or enjoyable as you think other dialects are”.
I know this is a very opinionated area. I believe Pharo looks and feels better than most of the other dialects, but I’m not stupid, I know there are tons of things to improve and I know there are good ideas/implementations around and I want watch them, to see how can improve even more our Pharo. So please, stay cool :P Esteban > On 10 Apr 2019, at 14:06, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:21 AM jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > <mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > <mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>> wrote: > Richard, > > > as a comment on VA Smalltalk: you are referring to the Linux version, > which is also your Screenshot. I agree that Linux version of VA > Smalltalk is far from what I'd call enjoyable or beautiful. > If you take a look at the Windows version of VAST, you'll immediately > realize that Linux users miss a lot of nice stuff that has been added to > VA Smalltalk over the last few releases. > > The reason here is most likely that commercial Smalltalk projects mainly > target Windows. This has changed for headless servers and I think it is > slowly starting to happen for GUI clients, but it will take some time. > We developers like Linux, but most of our end users still live and > breathe on Windows. Not that I like it, but it's a fact, at least in the > commercial field. > > Joachim > > Hi, > > I was about to answer same thing. Differently than Pharo, VW etc where the > rendering happens inside Smalltalk, in VA Smalltalk, its native. And so, > there are differences in the implementations between Unix and Windows. The > version in Windows is "much less ugly" than the one on Linux. In the upcoming > release we have also added HiDPI, as you can see here: > https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck/status/1063432539908571136 > <https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck/status/1063432539908571136> > And in 9.1, we did fix many UI related things for the Linux flavor, included > the shortcuts. If you are still facing issues, please contact us separately > (not to spam Pharo list) > > Best, > > -- > Mariano Martinez Peck > Email: marianop...@gmail.com <mailto:marianop...@gmail.com> > Twitter: @MartinezPeck > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariano-mart%C3%ADnez-peck/ > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariano-mart%C3%ADnez-peck/>
