Hi Robert, You have a DD with an unground edge. EDAR says: We are uncertain if these were samples, factory rejects, or tone test records. I believe they were factory rejects as the one I have had a white grease pencil that circled a 'defect'. I am very careful with my diamond and the defect was so small I would not have noticed unless it had been circled. The lady that had a group of them was in the NJ area so it is my theory that they were factory rejects that workers took home or purchased at a discount. They are not seen very often, I got mine on eBay from a non collector. Amazing how much was ground away. Mine has the title in a marker and no labels. They are hard to come by, I have only seen them on eBay once. Steve
> Hey Randy (and anyone else who might know about this stuff), I have a > > rough-edged, no-label test pressing of DD 50741. I don't remember paying > > much for it, but I haven't seen any others for sale while browsing through > > Nauck's auction listings or junking on eBay. Just how rare is this thing?> > > Thanks in advance,> Robert > From [email protected] Sun Sep 17 16:05:00 2006 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:52 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L and Censorship Message-ID: <[email protected]> BA Rolfe, Billy Murray, > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 > 23:20:50 -0500> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L and Censorship> > Great > points, all. Know your customer base. Aside from the Happiness Boys, > > Dalhart and Rachmaninoff, what major stars recorded regularly for Edison? > > All the titles I ever see aren't by artists I'd call major stars of the era.> > > > r.> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:34 PM> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L and Censorship> > > > Edison stuck to the > mores, business models, and audience awareness of the> > late 19th century > far too long. He came from an time when the people who > > built> > the best > machines, for the best prices, got the most business. He relied > > way> > > too much on word of mouth, and skimped on advertising.> >> > Edison also > inexplicably missed out on the fact that from 1900 on, > > American> > cities > boomed, and the rural audience that had been so loyal to him began > > its> > > long, slow decline that continues to this day. Victor seized the moment.> > > They advertised heavily, and often, in large, urban-oriented > > > publications. To> > see one of Victor's lavish, colorful spreads in a > magazine from that era > > almost> > makes an Edison fan wince. Victor also > invented the "star" system, with> > their long-term contracts. Edison > thought it was better to get a > > half-dozen of> > the great artists' best > titles, and not be "stuck" with paying them any > > more> > money for > "lesser material."> >> > It is fitting that one of the world's most famous > trademarks, (Nipper,) > > has> > a gramophone painted over an Edison cylinder > machine, and that one of the> > most famous Edison advertising pieces has two > toothless geezers singing > > along> > with a cylinder machine.> >> > > DISCLAIMER!> >> > To all of you toothless geezers out there. Please do not > take offense. I > > am> > approaching geezerdom at an ever accelerating pace, > and my dentist takes > > more> > of my money every year.> >> > Randy> > > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > > [email protected]> >> > Phono-L Archive> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/> >> > Support Phono-L> > > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank> > > > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > [email protected]> > Phono-L Archive> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/> > Support Phono-L> > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank From [email protected] Sun Sep 17 17:34:49 2006 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:52 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L and Censorship Message-ID: <[email protected]> I haven't seen those Edison ads, but there are a lot of things I haven't seen. I am glad some of his ads were good, but the nod for quantity of advertising expenditures and consistent quality of the ads would certainly have to go to Victor. I wish Edison had realized the importance of advertising. I really do. I love his machines. I think Victor pushed their artists as the stars, and their machines as the best means to hear them. For Edison, the machines and records were the stars. He saw the artists as being almost incidental. That is why the earliest Diamond Disks don't even give the names of the artists who made the records. Randy
