I still will never bid on a hidden buyer auction. It's like asking to be 
cheated.

Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!


> In this instance, it is not the seller who is making the decision to hide 
> the bidders' IDs, it is eBay.  It
> does seem like a very unpopular idea.
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:36:43 -0800, Daniel Melvin wrote:
>
>>I have always avoided auctions that hide bidders. I agree with Jeff's
>>suspicions. I just don't trust sellers that hide things. It just feels
>>wrong. I suppose many people have had OK transactions this way. It's not 
>>for
>>me though.
>
>>Dan
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <[email protected]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
>
>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/16/2007 4:13:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>
>>> Has  anyone bid, or won anything with these bidder identification
>>> protected
>>> auctions? The seller of the Zonophone-A is doing that with that 
>>> particular
>>> auction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ====================
>>> eBay has always had an option for keeping bidders private, but this is 
>>> not
>>> the case here. Recently eBay instituted a new policy whereby anything 
>>> that
>>> tops
>>> $200 becomes "protected." It's not the seller's choice. Instead of 
>>> showing
>>> bidder IDs it shows "Bidder 1, " "Bidder 2" etc. This is an attempt to
>>> combat
>>> rampant fraud since so many scammers are sending fake "second chance"
>>> notices
>>> to  underbidders. By hiding bidders on higher-priced items they hope to
>>> cut
>>> down on  these scams. It will also prevent people from offering similar
>>> items
>>> to  underbidders by private message.
>>>
>>> On the bid history page you can view some statistics on the bidders.
>>> Perhaps
>>> the most telling is the one that shows what percent of the bidder's 
>>> total
>>> bid activity is with the particular seller. In the Zonophone auction, 
>>> for
>>> example, the current high bidder has 42% of activity with the seller.
>>> That's
>>> certainly very high. It also shows the categories the bidder has been
>>> active in,
>>> so it's very easy to see if a person who spends most of his time buying
>>> Christmas ornaments is suddenly a player on high-end collector
>>> phonographs.
>>>
>>> The new system is far from ideal, and I confess I liked to see what 
>>> other
>>> people were bidding on. But by the same token, I never liked airing my
>>> own bid
>>> history publicly so I guess I'm a hypocrite at heart! Overall I  think
>>> this
>>> new system will have more pros than cons. (And it will hopefully  stifle
>>> some of
>>> the con artists, pun intended....)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Rene Rondeau
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