I agree completely.  It's very stupid and useless.  I find it helpful to see 
exactly who is bidding, and this adds a certain amount of enjoyment to the 
eBay "game."   If eBay wanted to eliminate a lot of problems, they could 
simply do away with the "2nd chance offer".  Hiding the names of the bidders 
will certainly increase the number of shill bidders.  The change is very ill 
advised and one that eBay will certainly regret.  I have heard that Google 
is considering getting into the auction business, and if they do then eBay 
will be in real trouble.

Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!


> Well, for one; I try not to purposely bid against some of my other phono 
> friends that live in my same town. It isn't that there is a problem 
> bidding against someone you know, I just choose to not do it as a courtesy 
> to my friends. This change eliminates that possibility. I also know who 
> many of the real phono ebay users are. It makes me feel better when legit 
> folks are bidding. And, I see no value to anyone in this change. It's 
> stupid.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
>
>
>> The bidder information is available to the seller.  It is ONLY converted 
>> to Bidder 1 etc.  for the other
>> bidders.
>>
>> I might be missing something here, so please clarify, if you would.  What 
>> exactly does knowing the
>> bidders actual eBay user IDs provide to you as regards "protection" that 
>> Bidder 1 etc. does not?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:25:07 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote:
>>
>>>It seems to me that it will not do much good to discuss this only on
>>>Phono-L.  You all need to state your displeasure to Ebay itself.  That
>>>is not an easy task since Ebay makes it very difficult to send something
>>>directly to them.  If anyone knows a good way to send them your comments
>>>please share it with the rest of us.  I have commented on the new policy
>>>on one of the chat boards but there is no way to know if Ebay pays much
>>>attention to that.   I make heavy use of the bidder info to protect
>>>myself as both a buyer and seller.  Ebay has shown themselves to be
>>>incapable of  protecting the buyers and sellers from the abuses that
>>>have been discussed here.  I believe the policy is purely profit based
>>>and they could care less about the rest of us.  Unless they can
>>>guarantee protection to buyers and sellers from the abuses that are
>>>rampent on Ebay, then they should not remove about the only way we have
>>>to protect ourselves.
>>
>>>Ken
>>
>>
>>
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