Steve, I don't specifically know epier (just took a quick look), but there are many other small auction sites and NONE has any volume of so many different items as ebay. Now, if someone were to organize all of them together, we might get some competition for ebay. ;)
Ger -------------- Original message -------------- From: Steven Medved <[email protected]> > Rich, > > Let me know what you discover, is anyone familiar with ePier? > > http://www.epier.com/ > > Steve > > > > > > Yahoo has an auction site. have not looked in a long time but I will > > > > take > a look in the AM. I am NOT a big fan of yahoo either, their > business ethics > do > not measure up in my estimation.> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sat Feb 2 22:30:58 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sat Feb 2 22:31:12 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Phishing e-mails from eBay Message-ID: <[email protected]> If you are getting more phishing now then somehow the phishing spammers may have gotten your email address. You may need to change addresses if the problem is serious. Phishing on eBay was very common when people, myself included, used an email address as a seller/buyer name. Then eBay sent out a message asking those of us with who did this to get a new name which almost everyone did. The phishing stopped for the most part. Those of us who kept part of our email address continued to get a small amount of phishing emails. eBay then sent out a second message stating we should not have any part of our email address as the seller/buyer name. Once a new name with no part of my email address was used the number of phishes almost stopped. I have to give some credit also to my provider AOL. As these spams go out it only takes a couple of keystrokes by AOL members to block the delivery of phishing spams to all of the members. Now the number of eBay phishing spams is only a couple a month and I have not had one for weeks. It is one of the few good things AOL has ever done and really knocks down the spam rate. The down side is that a single keystroke can block a list like this one from going to all AOL members. I understand that it is a pain to get AOL then to allow further access by a list holder. So, if you are selling gizmos and you have an email address of gizmo(a)aol.com with an eBay name of gizmoseller, then you have a good chance of being targeted by the minions out there trying to steal your accounts, identity, and money. The absolute worst thing you can do is to hit the hypertext link as that tells the spammer you exist and at email address xxxxxxxx. If your provider has a spam button for deleting the email then use it. Second worst is hitting the button to have yourself removed as that too tells the spammed you exist. Reporting phishing to eBay seems to have no effect but PayPal takes them a bit more seriously and does go after them according to an article I read. I have not had a PayPal spam in months. Best Wishes, Al **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From [email protected] Sat Feb 2 22:36:18 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sat Feb 2 22:47:44 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Phishing e-mails from eBay Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi Ray, Yes, I do get a lot of phishing emails for both ebay and paypal. When you get enough of these you get better at recognizing phishing for what it is. I send them to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) and [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) but in truth I don't know whether they do much to investigate these. BUT I also get plenty of phishing emails for BankAmerica, WaMu, Chase, and various other banks stating that they are going to cancel my account. I don't hear anyone complaining about these emails. And the banks can do little about these sites since most of them are coming from other countries. Just the same, ebay and PayPal can do little. Just check My Messages if you are concerned about whether an email is for real. Art Heller **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From [email protected] Sat Feb 2 23:07:46 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sat Feb 2 23:07:54 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion Message-ID: <[email protected]> I've been listening to the multitude of complaints about ebay for quite some time now. And, I must say that I am not happy with the various efforts of ebay to extract more money for their sales However I must also say that there is no site that has the volume of phono and record items that ebay does. This situation has arisen simply because ebay was the first auction site of this type and gained it's following first. I have learned much from the volume of phono items on ebay and it is certainly good to keep such items in one place for ease of exploration. You can spread out your offerings among other sites if you wish, but I won't have time to do the search. I hardly have time to explore all of the ebay offerings! Craig's List is fine but it's definitely local in attractiveness. If one lives in Colorado, as I do, a wider audience for phono items is certainly desireable. I have found great items in Europe which I never would have seen on Craig's List. I am not in love with ebay--but until another site can offer such a volume of phono experience, I'm going to be exploring ebay first. Develop a better and more comprehensive site and I will use it. Art Heller **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 01:26:48 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sun Feb 3 01:26:58 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Clues to ID Phishing e-mails not from eBay Message-ID: <[email protected]> There are clues to pick up on when you think the email is spam or phishing: 1) They don't use your name in the posting. It is always Dear eBay Member... eBay will always start with: "Dear Gizmoseller (R. A. Gizmo)," so your name is included to show that it really is eBay sending it. 2) The title line is most likely to hit your fear button. You will see, "Your Account Is Flagged For Closure!" or some other ruse to get you to hit the link and fall for their bologna. Forwarding this to eBay via "spoof(a)ebay.com" will get you a return from eBay stating "thank you for reporting this to eBay we can assure you this was not sent by eBay." 3) When you get the "Notice of Unpaid Item" requiring you to respond immediately, paste the item number they provide into an item search on the REAL eBay. It will invariably come up as something you would never buy such as a motorcycle muffler for a '48 Indian. 4) If you have ever even once hit the link in the spam then you will need to change email addresses to end the deluge because the crooks have your number. However, all is not lost. If the spammers get no responses ever again from that address then they slowly trail off. They are looking for valid addresses and zero feedback does not confirm you still exist. Overall when you consider the service eBay has provided for all of us phonograph collectors, it is a huge positive gain. Just the chance to bid on some rare normally never seen whatchamacallit is a thrill in itself. They really cannot do much to go after the legions of crooks that seek out new avenues of fraudulent gain. Best to everyone, gotta run now, just got an email I've won the Irish Lottery, Al **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 05:34:18 2008 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Feb 3 05:54:51 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> On amazon you look up the item you want, say ink for your printer. Then they have a link that will say new and used and you click on that. Sometimes you can find books for 1 penney with $3.99 shipping. > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 23:00:22 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion> > Rich > wrote:> > Amazon is still running auctions. More than that I do not know.> > > I can't find auction listings anywhere on the Amazon site. Do you have > a > link?> > -- > Bill Burns> Long Island NY USA> http://ftldesign.com> > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 05:40:05 2008 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Feb 3 05:59:45 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Art, You said it very well. Steve From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 06:47:29 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sun Feb 3 06:47:59 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Congrats to Phonofan & Ebay communications block... Message-ID: <[email protected]> Thanks for the congrats, Al. Just an note to say I'm "phonoPHAN"--- I think there is also a "phonofan" and also a "phono-phan" and maybe there's a "phono-fan", too! I didn't foresee this when I thought up mine 11 years ago when I first created my Web site.... but the more the merrier, I suppose. Democracy is a good thing. About eBay's arbitrary behavior-- I can only say that eBay is a monolith, like "The Phone Company" used to be back in the days before deregulation. They think they own the world and can pretty much do whatever they like. And they do, to a large extent. eBay could benefit from some stiff competetion -- give them a sense of their own mortality. Nothing goes well in a vacuum. Cheers to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 07:42:28 2008 From: [email protected] (Bill Burns) Date: Sun Feb 3 07:54:53 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Rich wrote: > I have no idea what they are doing or have available. This is the > entrance page that comes up. I have looked no further. You might have > to do the cut and paste thing to put this all together. > > http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/subst/your-account/manage-your-account.html/058-8599213-3696463 > That seems to be *all* there is - just seller account settings, no auction listings to be found anywhere on Amazon. -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 07:52:40 2008 From: [email protected] (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Feb 3 07:54:59 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - eBay Phishing In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Look, you're really just wasting your time by reporting phishing scams to eBay. All it does is make you feel like you've done something about it. eBay can't stop phishing any more than you can stop the wind. All they can do is try to shut down the web site linked in the phishing email. By the time they do that, it's already too late for a number of victims. Here's how your email address got on the phisher's list. You sent an email to a friend. It's just that simple. Rewind 7 months - when your friend bought his computer, it likely came with a "free" 6 mo. subscription to an antivirus program. He didn't renew, then he got an email telling him that someone sent him an e-greeting card. He clicked on the link and unwittingly downloaded a trojan to his computer. The trojan scanned for personal information, including his contact list (that your email address is now on) and sent it off to a Russian spam gang. Then it recruited his computer into a huge botnet. The spam gang collated a huge email list and sold them to other spam/ phisher gangs on the black market. Your email address is now in the hands of hundreds - if not thousands - of scammers all over the world. They don't know if you have an eBay or WaMu account, and they don't care. They're playing a numbers game - send out the scam to as many people as possible and you will reel some in. They buy time on a botnet, inject their scam, and your friends computer - along with thousands of others - starts grinding out phishing emails to the masses. A few of the computers in the botnet host the fake web site that's linked in the email. Botnets use sophisticated software - if you cut off the computer that controls the botnet, control just switches to another computer. It's like playing "whack a mole," and ISP's do little to cut off infected zombie computers. What can you do? Other than changing your email address every couple of months, the best option is to use an email service with a good spam filter. One of the best out there at the moment is gmail. Most importantly, keep your antivirus updated! I'll get off the soapbox now. Loran From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 08:36:25 2008 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Feb 3 08:37:00 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion In-Reply-To: <020320080553.26505.47a556be00005322000067892206824693caca9d0...@comcast.net> References: <020320080553.26505.47a556be00005322000067892206824693caca9d0...@comcast.net> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Ger, That has always been the problem, when it comes to phono items the other auction sites are a joke. EBay has been wonderful for my research and saving photos. Steve > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] OT > - Ebay rebellion> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:53:02 +0000> CC: > [email protected]> > Steve,> > I don't specifically know epier (just took a > quick look), but there are many other small auction sites and NONE has any > volume of so many different items as ebay. > Now, if someone were to organize > all of them together, we might get some competition for ebay. ;)> > Ger> > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Steven Medved > <[email protected]> > > > Rich, > > > > Let me know what you discover, is > anyone familiar with ePier? > > > > http://www.epier.com/ > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo has an auction site. have not looked in a long time but I > will > take > > a look in the AM. I am NOT a big fan of yahoo either, their > > business ethics do > > not measure up in my estimation.> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sun Feb 3 11:39:53 2008 From: [email protected] (Thatcher Graham) Date: Sun Feb 3 11:40:05 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <020320080553.26505.47a556be00005322000067892206824693caca9d0...@comcast.net> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I need to get some sleeves for my 78s. Can anyone make a reccomendation? I'm uncertain if I shodl be buying sleeves or jackets or from where. -- Thatcher >> p://phono-l.oldcrank.org_______________________________________________ >> > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >
