I have been exposed to the Wal_Mart phenomena since the 50s and I will 
tell you that Wal-Mart adapts to the changing market and eBay does not.

[email protected] wrote:
> I totally agree with all of you.  I too have worked extremely hard to provide 
> above average packaging, good delivery times, and prompt communications as an 
> effort to wow my ebay customers and suppliers in order to keep my 100% 
> feedback rating.  It is a no win situation.  If I, or others like me, send in 
> due 
> negative feedback to a buyer or seller, you know without a doubt that they 
> are 
> going to send in a nasty unwarranted feedback.  The feedback systems is 
> pretty 
> much a joke when it comes to negative feedback.  
> 
> The ones that just kill me are the dead beat buyers.  This is the sorry no 
> good buyer that will out bid a great buyer at the last minute and will never 
> pay 
> for the item.  Has this ever happened to anyone?  You send email after email, 
> and still never hear anything from them.  Ebay still gets all of their fees, 
> etc.  
> 
> I have also heard of some bad situations with ebay and paypal in which folks 
> never get their item(s).  Ebay has this 'we will take care of you' policy, 
> but 
> when it comes to coming though, well, forget it.  The most common excuse from 
> the seller is that the item got lost in the mail.  The poor mail system gets 
> the blame every time.
> 
> Always remember...Ebay is after one thing...MONEY!  At one time, ebay was a 
> fantastic site to buy, sell, and to meet some great friends in the hobby, and 
> at a reasonable price.  I have sold items and after ebay got all of their 
> fees 
> and paypal got their fee, I practically gave the item away.  I bet if the 
> average ebayer adds up the time spent to place the ad, the time spent to 
> respond 
> to communications, the time spent to package the item, the money spent to buy 
> the packaging material, the money spent for gas to go to the post office, and 
> the time spent standing in line to mail the item, and the money ebay and 
> paypal 
> took, the ebayer would say, I did not make as much as I thought I'd make.  
> 
> I have decided to stop giving my hard earned stuff away.  I personnaly like 
> show and swap meets.  One can actually see and try an item out before it is 
> bought.   
> 
> Thanks to the ebay top dogs, ebay started getting greedy.  You know, when you 
> get your first billion, you just gotta get that second!  Because of this 
> greed, many people have said, 'The ....with it" and found other avenues to 
> buy and 
> sell.  Craig's List is an example, and it is free!  Sure, there are some 
> short comings with Craigs and the other avenues, but nothing is perfect.
> 
> I can't stand the way ebay also threatens the seller or buyer..."DO NOT BUY 
> OFF LINE, OR ELSE....!!!
> 
> In all fairness, I liked ebay at one time and have been happy with the 
> transactions that I have been involved with, both as a seller and a buyer.  I 
> have 
> bough much more that I have sold sad to say.  I feel that these sudden 
> changes 
> with management and policy may be a 'knee jerk' reactions to the lagging 
> profits over the last year or so.  A company can get only so big for so long 
> before 
> the customers get enough and say, "It's time for me to opt for other options. 
>  I don't need you anymore!"  Maybe ebay needs the customer more than the 
> customer needs ebay for once.
> 
> One of these days the same will be true for the likes of Wal-Mart.....
> 
> Brantley   </HTML>
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From [email protected]  Sat Feb  2 17:57:35 2008
From: [email protected] (Bill Burns)
Date: Sat Feb  2 18:24:22 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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Robert Wright wrote:
> Yahoo has no auction site.  They used to, and in the beginnings of eBay, 
> Yahoo's was substantially larger and more active than eBay's.

No, that's not right.  eBay started in 1995, and Yahoo attempted to 
compete with them on auctions starting in 1998, followed by Amazon in 
1999.  eBay was so well established by then that neither Yahoo's nor 
Amazon's auctions got much traffic, and they both gave up.

I signed up as a seller with eBay in 1996, less than a year after they 
opened for business.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay

http://wiki.media-culture.org.au/index.php/Yahoo!_Auctions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com

-- 
Bill Burns
Long Island   NY   USA
http://ftldesign.com
From [email protected]  Sat Feb  2 18:55:55 2008
From: [email protected] (Robert Wright)
Date: Sat Feb  2 18:55:59 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion
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I stand corrected, Bill!  I guess I should've said I used to find more of 
what I was looking for on Yahoo's auctions when eBay first started getting 
settled in; it sure seemed like a larger site than eBay in those days.  But 
heck, back then, I knew a 10th as much as I do about records now, with a 
great deal of info learned through eBay listings.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Burns" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion


> Robert Wright wrote:
>> Yahoo has no auction site.  They used to, and in the beginnings of eBay, 
>> Yahoo's was substantially larger and more active than eBay's.
>
> No, that's not right.  eBay started in 1995, and Yahoo attempted to 
> compete with them on auctions starting in 1998, followed by Amazon in 
> 1999.  eBay was so well established by then that neither Yahoo's nor 
> Amazon's auctions got much traffic, and they both gave up.
>
> I signed up as a seller with eBay in 1996, less than a year after they 
> opened for business.
>
> See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay
>
> http://wiki.media-culture.org.au/index.php/Yahoo!_Auctions
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com
>
> -- 
> Bill Burns
> Long Island   NY   USA
> http://ftldesign.com
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