Look at the early Victor catalogues circa 1901-1902; there were phonograph
models named Monarch and Monarch Special and Deluxe Monarch.

At the time period when the program was offered, circa 1901-1903, the term
Monarch could only have meant Victor Talking Machine Company's 10-inch
records and machines equipped with 10-inch turntables. A cursory glance at
the artists and titles indicates all VERY early Victor recording artists.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

Hi Bruce,  I've heard of the use of the Monarch name on Victor 10" records 
but not machines.  What history were you reading?
RMV
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BruceY" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program


> According to a history I just read concerning the Victor Talking Machine 
> Co., they very briefly used the word "Monarch" as their trademark, here is

> the excerpt, this could also explain the reason that the exhibitor was 
> using these two different names for this talking machines. Did the name 
> plates on the early Monarch machines, just have Monarch or did they have 
> the Victor Trademark??
> Here is the excerpt.
>
> It will be remembered that Mr. Johnson was stopped from using the word 
> Gramophone by Judge Gray on March 1, 1901, on the grounds that it was a 
> Berliner trademark. Mr. Johnson was under the impression that the word 
> Gramophone was a generic term (i.e., describing the disc-type reproducer).

> The term "Talking Machine," on the other hand, was generic, having been 
> coined by a headline writer on a Buffalo, New York newspaper in 1889.
>
> For a short time, the company also used the word "Monarch" as a trademark.

> It is not altogether clear why. It evidently carried something of a deluxe

> implication, but it is possible that the object was to have a reserve name

> to fall back on in case the others failed to stand up. The word "Monarch" 
> was applied to instruments for only one season, but it continued on 
> records for several, In this case, the name apparently identified the size

> of the disc. (Fig. 14) Early records were branded as follows:
>
> 14 inch - Deluxe Special
> 12 inch - Deluxe
> 10 inch - Monarch
> 7 inch - Victor
>
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program
>
>
>>
>> 1901-02 Johnson/Victor catalogs differentiated between "Victor" and 
>> "Monarch" records, and this may have influenced the exhibitor's 
>> terminology.? I'm not aware of any Monarch Talking Machine from this era 
>> other than the Johnson/Victor machines.
>>
>>
>>
>> George Paul
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