That is very interesting. Since ebay knows what items have been sold, and they have an absolute restriction that the items must be paid for by using Paypal, I would assume they would eventually follow up on the sale to be sure they are getting there additional "Pound of Flesh" by? way of the paypal charge. I wonder what they would do, if they contact the buyer and find out he/she paid by personal check or money order ? suspend the seller? I just wonder how they could possibly police this situation for the millions of transactions taking place every week? it would be mind boggling to say the least. In any event the situation is in all aspects, morally intolerable from the standpoint of completing a sale. legal tender is legal tender, and why should they give a sweet you know what, how the sale is completed, as long as they are getting their commission charges ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:50:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale Although you can't say it on The bay, I think you can tell buyers after the fact that you will accept other forms of payment. ? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale ?Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not physically on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today.?Two days ago?I put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. I am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to replace?mine (which developed structural problems).? I need to raise this money SOON!? So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to get a back bracket for it. So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't?read every piece of claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an error code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on the term personal checks.? So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on the III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders telling them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at the end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not receive it. Nice ?and caring.? Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is item number 110374580209.? I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it now on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So if you want a deal, there it is.? As for ebay, they disguise their corporate greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks for leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far.? John RObles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Apr 9 06:51:49 2009 From: [email protected] (Ron L) Date: Thu Apr 9 06:52:24 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale In-Reply-To: <1245664485.49721239284558417.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <[email protected]> <1245664485.49721239284558417.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <[email protected]> And what about a local pick up? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:43 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale That is very interesting. Since ebay knows what items have been sold, and they have an absolute restriction that the items must be paid for by using Paypal, I would assume they would eventually follow up on the sale to be sure they are getting there additional "Pound of Flesh" by? way of the paypal charge. I wonder what they would do, if they contact the buyer and find out he/she paid by personal check or money order ? suspend the seller? I just wonder how they could possibly police this situation for the millions of transactions taking place every week? it would be mind boggling to say the least. In any event the situation is in all aspects, morally intolerable from the standpoint of completing a sale. legal tender is legal tender, and why should they give a sweet you know what, how the sale is completed, as long as they are getting their commission charges ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:50:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale Although you can't say it on The bay, I think you can tell buyers after the fact that you will accept other forms of payment. ? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale ?Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not physically on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today.?Two days ago?I put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. I am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to replace?mine (which developed structural problems).? I need to raise this money SOON!? So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to get a back bracket for it. So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't?read every piece of claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an error code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on the term personal checks.? So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on the III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders telling them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at the end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not receive it. Nice ?and caring.? Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is item number 110374580209.? I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it now on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So if you want a deal, there it is.? As for ebay, they disguise their corporate greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks for leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far.? John RObles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
