In a message dated 4/9/2009 11:30:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
I see many phono items in the last few months for sale on this list. Keep it up. Hey no fees and you are dealing with people you know...sort of.... Collecting is fun when it is part of a social network, at least to me it is.. Mike Here Ye! Likewise, I was an ebay buyer/seller from the mid-'90s. The Pay Pal thing was the last straw for me. In '07 I sold a model T Ford car for $8,500 but they have a very short memory and required I use Pay Pal "Due to the value of the article..." to sell a phonograph worth $1200 last fall. I quit e-bay then n' there and I'm still alive. It's useful for pricing but is not considered for anything I buy or sell. Our connections on the Internet are already providing adequate alternatives. My two needles worth, : ) Edward **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From [email protected] Thu Apr 9 12:34:29 2009 From: [email protected] (Albert) Date: Thu Apr 9 12:42:50 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000801c9b94a$337c1c60$7501a...@albert> Mike: What other venues are there? Advanced collectors are not going to buy common machines, or if they do they wont pay retail.. I too hate Ebay, but I love to sell machines there because I have always got great prices and they sell quickly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Stitt" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale >I thought we had talked about this here. I may be wrong. When eBay forces > PayPal they collect a % on shipping fees as well. I thought I had bemoaned > the fact that many collectors who are not dealers but very "casual" > sellers > will find "taking PayPal" way to much of a burden for an occasional sell. > We > collectors tend to fuel eBay with some very nice stuff when we decide to > let > go. eBay will effectively drive away sellers with good stuff and buyers as > well. I don't mean it will doom eBay and super rare stuff will still show > up......with the flea market stuff. The middle road people may find it > easier to sell in another venue. I will not establish a sellers PayPal > account for the few nice pieces I wish sell each year. I've been an eBay > member since 1997 and my feedback is a whopping 107. I see many phono > items > in the last few months for sale on this list. Keep it up. Hey no fees and > you are dealing with people you know...sort of.... Collecting is fun when > it > is part of a social network, at least to me it is.. > Mike > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Abe Feder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John, >> You can take ck's you just do not put it in your add. If you not a very >> small number say "Pay Pal account required" If they do I by pass them. I >> send them in ask a question if they take cks or cc and they always say >> yes.Ebay really messed up my account when they hit me with increased >> fee's >> that I just did not know about. After three months of trying to get it >> square-I just do not do pay pal. >> Abe Feder >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, john robles <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not >> physically >> > on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today. Two days ago >> > I >> > put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I >> > have. >> I >> > am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to >> > replace mine (which developed structural problems). I need to raise >> > this >> > money SOON! So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to >> > my >> > heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying >> > to >> get >> > a back bracket for it. >> > So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did >> > the >> > unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for >> > clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks >> > on >> > ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't read every piece of >> > claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my >> > listings, >> > and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an >> error >> > code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on >> the >> > term personal checks. So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to >> > check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on >> the >> > III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders >> telling >> > them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry >> > letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at >> the >> > end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not >> > receive it. Nice >> > and caring. Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is >> item >> > number 110374580209. I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy >> > it >> now >> > on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So >> if >> > you want a deal, there it is. As for ebay, they disguise their >> > corporate >> > greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own >> > Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks >> for >> > leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far. >> > John RObles >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Phono-L mailing list >> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
