John, You can take ck's you just do not put it in your add. If you not a very small number say "Pay Pal account required" If they do I by pass them. I send them in ask a question if they take cks or cc and they always say yes.Ebay really messed up my account when they hit me with increased fee's that I just did not know about. After three months of trying to get it square-I just do not do pay pal. Abe Feder
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, john robles <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not physically > on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today. Two days ago I > put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. I > am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to > replace mine (which developed structural problems). I need to raise this > money SOON! So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my > heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to get > a back bracket for it. > So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the > unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for > clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on > ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't read every piece of > claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, > and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an error > code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on the > term personal checks. So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to > check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on the > III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders telling > them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry > letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at the > end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not > receive it. Nice > and caring. Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is item > number 110374580209. I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it now > on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So if > you want a deal, there it is. As for ebay, they disguise their corporate > greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own > Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks for > leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far. > John RObles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Thu Apr 9 11:08:25 2009 From: [email protected] (Mike Stitt) Date: Thu Apr 9 11:08:30 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I thought we had talked about this here. I may be wrong. When eBay forces PayPal they collect a % on shipping fees as well. I thought I had bemoaned the fact that many collectors who are not dealers but very "casual" sellers will find "taking PayPal" way to much of a burden for an occasional sell. We collectors tend to fuel eBay with some very nice stuff when we decide to let go. eBay will effectively drive away sellers with good stuff and buyers as well. I don't mean it will doom eBay and super rare stuff will still show up......with the flea market stuff. The middle road people may find it easier to sell in another venue. I will not establish a sellers PayPal account for the few nice pieces I wish sell each year. I've been an eBay member since 1997 and my feedback is a whopping 107. I see many phono items in the last few months for sale on this list. Keep it up. Hey no fees and you are dealing with people you know...sort of.... Collecting is fun when it is part of a social network, at least to me it is.. Mike On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Abe Feder <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > You can take ck's you just do not put it in your add. If you not a very > small number say "Pay Pal account required" If they do I by pass them. I > send them in ask a question if they take cks or cc and they always say > yes.Ebay really messed up my account when they hit me with increased fee's > that I just did not know about. After three months of trying to get it > square-I just do not do pay pal. > Abe Feder > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, john robles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not > physically > > on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today. Two days ago I > > put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. > I > > am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to > > replace mine (which developed structural problems). I need to raise this > > money SOON! So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my > > heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to > get > > a back bracket for it. > > So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the > > unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for > > clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on > > ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't read every piece of > > claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, > > and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an > error > > code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on > the > > term personal checks. So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to > > check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on > the > > III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders > telling > > them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry > > letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at > the > > end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not > > receive it. Nice > > and caring. Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is > item > > number 110374580209. I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it > now > > on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So > if > > you want a deal, there it is. As for ebay, they disguise their corporate > > greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own > > Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks > for > > leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far. > > John RObles > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Thu Apr 9 11:55:25 2009 From: [email protected] (Michael Graziano) Date: Thu Apr 9 11:55:34 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <ea3b5d1c02d1426ba36507253fbfa...@archimedes> They did something similar to me a few months ago. I had a Lionel train set on eBay from 1978 that looked like the day it was made. So I used the term "Like New". Apparently, that's search engine manipulation. They cancelled it with one day left on the auction. I eventually relisted it and sold it for less than where bidding was when it was cancelled. Bastards. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale ?Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not physically on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today.?Two days ago?I put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. I am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to replace?mine (which developed structural problems).? I need to raise this money SOON!? So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to get a back bracket for it. So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't?read every piece of claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an error code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on the term personal checks.? So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on the III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders telling them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at the end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not receive it. Nice and caring.? Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is item number 110374580209.? I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it now on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So if you want a deal, there it is.? As for ebay, they disguise their corporate greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks for leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far.? John RObles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
