Exactly.

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 6:42 AM


That is very interesting. Since ebay knows what items have been sold, and they
have an absolute restriction that the items must be paid for by using Paypal, I
would assume they would eventually follow up on the sale to be sure they are
getting there additional "Pound of Flesh" by? way of the paypal
charge. I wonder what they would do, if they contact the buyer and find out
he/she paid by personal check or money order ? suspend the seller? I just wonder
how they could possibly police this situation for the millions of transactions
taking place every week? it would be mind boggling to say the least. In any
event the situation is in all aspects, morally intolerable from the standpoint
of completing a sale. legal tender is legal tender, and why should they give a
sweet you know what, how the sale is completed, as long as they are getting
their commission charges ? 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:50:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale 

Although you can't say it on The bay, I think you can tell buyers after the

fact that you will accept other forms of payment. ? 

Ron L 

-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of john robles 
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:04 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale 

?Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not physically 
on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today.?Two days ago?I 
put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I have. I 
am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to 
replace?mine (which developed structural problems).? I need to raise this 
money SOON!? So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to my 
heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying to get 
a back bracket for it. 
So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did the 
unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for 
clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks on 
ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't?read every piece of 
claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my listings, 
and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an error 
code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on the 
term personal checks.? So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to 
check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on the 
III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders telling 
them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry 
letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at the 
end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not 
receive it. Nice 
?and caring.? Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is item 
number 110374580209.? I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy it now 
on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So if 
you want a deal, there it is.? As for ebay, they disguise their corporate 
greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own

Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks for 
leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far.? 
John RObles 
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From [email protected]  Thu Apr  9 07:02:28 2009
From: [email protected] (john robles)
Date: Thu Apr  9 07:23:06 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Clarification on Mexican 4 minute cylinder
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

It is 4 minute wax, not Blue Amberol. The Mexican box is the same green box 
that all 4 minute wax amberols came in but the lid is in Spanish. Not the 
correct lid, but an original lid.
?
?
From [email protected]  Thu Apr  9 08:43:33 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Apr  9 08:44:20 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono items for sale
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Dear Mr. Robles,
I am interested in the Recorder & the two styli if still available.
Thanks.   All good wishes...
                                                                            
       Very truly yours,
                                                                            
       Jim Cartwright
                                                                            
       Immortal Performances

[email protected]


> [Original Message]
> From: john robles <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 09-Apr-2009 2:35:58 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Phono items for sale
>
> Here are a few items I am offering the list: Pics are available of all
items.
> Edison Recorder in box, excellent stylus, $120.00 postpaid.
>  
> Two original stylii in brass shanks for Brunswick Ultona. One is the rare
diamond tipped stylus forr Edison Diamond Discs, the other is the sapphire
stylus to play Pathe and other lateral cut records. Both stylii $110
postpaid. Separately, $60 each.
>  
> HMV model 104 tabletop internal horn phonograph. Las tabletop model made
by HMV in 1935. Uses the HMV a reproducer which is a brass model
Orthophonic. Little machine with great big sound, almost as good as a
Credenza! Has HMV 'Exponential' tonearm and horn. 18" wide, 16" deep and
14" high. Nice English Oak cabinet and nickel hardware. An astounding
little machine. $250 plus shipping.
>  
> Repro Fireside crane, $25 postpaid.
>  
> 3 original engraved copper printing plates used for the book Tinfoil to
Stereo the original edition). One shows a suitcase Edison Standard (two
clip model) with 14" horn. The second is a three stage plate showing Edison
model C reproduicer, sapphire and recorder; third plate shows Edison
Triumph with wooden cygnet horn. These are an interesting piece of
phonograph history and cold be displayed with the book. $80.00 postpaid.
>  
> Rare Blue Amberol cylinder #2001, Rastus Take Me Back by silent/sound
film star Marie Dressler, exc + to mint condition - $125 postpaid. 
>  
> Blue Amberol 5430 My Blue Heaven, Vaughn DeLeath  - Mint Condition -
$85.00
>  
> Rare 4 minute #6039, Mexican Edison recording -  El Carretero - Cuarteto
Coculense - this is historic, the first recorded Mariachi (before they used
trumpet which didn't come along until about 1924) - EXC condition - $60.00
postpaid. Original Mexican box with wrong Mexican lid. 
>  
> Let me know off list if interested.
> Thanks!
> John Robles
>  
>  
>  
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