I agree Peter. There are local UPS pack and ship stores that I have utilized this same method. Pack the item and hand it over to them where they box it for shipment. When insured for full value, they cough up a check with no questions asked. I believe my only claim through one local pack and ship store was resolved in about 7 - 10 days for about $4500.00.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Fraser <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs

Actually UPS has a deal where if THEY pack it and there is a claim, they pay immediately, no questions asked. So what I've been doing recently is pack the phono, horn, etc my own way (safely, thoroughly) then hand that package to them for them to pack in a larger box (with about 4" crush space in all dimensions).

I have had great success with this so far, and the one claim i had was indeed paid lightning fast and with no questions asked at the stated value.

Not sure what it's called, but your local UPS store will know. Might be something like "The UPS Pack and Ship Promise."

-- Peter

On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Thatcher Graham wrote:

My experience with UPS is that they wont pay out any insurance claim
unless they impale it with a forklift.
They smashed a Micropoise tone arm on me a few months back. I never
got a dollar from that even though the box had been flattened.
And yes, the forklift example is real.

-Thatcher



The Farmers wrote:
I agree with this too. Although I'm not sure that it's easier to
collect from FedEx since I've never had any damage from them to find out. FedEx also has much shorter lines to stand in for some strange reason.

Greg Farmer


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved"
<[email protected]>
To: "phonolist" <[email protected]>; "Phono-l"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs



I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says
will be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic alligator mouth sorting system.

Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect
from if there is an accident.

Steve



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