When the question is short like "Is the  item still available?" always raised a 
red flag with me from the beginning. Most inquirers would ask " I see the 
vicotrola ad on craigslist. The victrola looks very nice to me and I am very 
intereted, but I have a couple questions about the item. What alpha character 
after the serial numbbers appear on the id plate?" My point is the sincere 
inquirer would not provide a sort abrupt questio and he or she will use terms 
foundin your description and then elaborate with their questions. Conartists 
want to be brief and to the point before going off an scamming others.  Just my 
thougts.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: bruce78rpm <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist


Yes, I can imagine that given the multitude of scammers and con artists who now 
ppear to taking over Craigslist, more and more people will be discouraged from 
sing it, and the degree of distrust of anyone making inquiries will continue to 
ise and rise. Is there a solution ? probably not. There are a 100 times as many 
s them, as there are those to track them down and stop this nonsense. 
----- Original Message -----
rom: "William Zucca" <[email protected]> 
o: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> 
ent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:50:23 AM 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist 
What a load of crap. I hate those guys. I was confused the first time they 
ried it with me and I only wonder how many less sophisticated, first-time 
raigslist sellers give up after not being able to figure out what the hell 
s going on with these messages. 
Some sellers ask for a phone number from anyone writing to inquire about an 
tem and say they won't respond without one. I always give my phone number 
hen inquiring about a sale. 
These idiots make it harder to buy and sell on craigslist and make 
raigslist users mistrust everyone else who uses it. Damn them. 
GrnMountainBill 
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:43 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: 
> I placed a Victrola for sale on Craigslist today, and almost immediately I 
 was contacted by two crooks/scammers. 
 
 Here is one of the bizarre email I received. I am assuming that a certain % 
 of Sellers actually fall for this lunacy, otherwise these con artists would 
 not be trying it. 
 
 
 Hello, 
 
 I'm making an immediate purchasing on behalf of my client and you will 
 receive check payment in excess over the item price. The check is 
 already signed, authorized and ready to be cashed. You are receiving 
 over payment because it includes shipper's fee, commission along side 
 due payments. 
 
 So, expect pickup because you are not expected to ship. I understand 
 that you will only allow the shipping company to pickup from your 
 location after you might have received the check. 
 
 In addition, the check will be sent as soon as you agree with me to 
 deduct your earnings and send the balance through western union office 
 or location. Kindly get back to me ASAP with your full name, address 
 and phone# as it will be written on the check. Kindly have the item 
 removed off advertisement as it is deemed sold and inform me once 
 done. 
 
 Regards 
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