When selling on Craigslist, I never bother replying to anyone who just asks if it is still available. I used to do that and never sold anything to any of those people anyway. They need to also include SOMETHING that indicates they actually read my for sale posting and know what the item is that they are asking about.

-- Greg


----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinyl Visions" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist



Hi Rick,
I always ask the question: "Is the item still available?" - first. I don't trust the sellers any more than the buyers and there is absolutely no point asking other questions about the item if it is not available... so, not all short questions are from scammers. If I was selling something, I'm not sure that I would necessarily trust someone who didn't ask that question. Just another thought for what it's worth...

To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:54:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist


When the question is short like "Is the item still available?" always raised a red flag with me from the beginning. Most inquirers would ask " I see the vicotrola ad on craigslist. The victrola looks very nice to me and I am very intereted, but I have a couple questions about the item. What alpha character after the serial numbbers appear on the id plate?" My point is the sincere inquirer would not provide a sort abrupt questio and he or she will use terms foundin your description and then elaborate with their questions. Conartists want to be brief and to the point before going off an scamming others. Just my thougts.



-----Original Message-----
From: bruce78rpm <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist


Yes, I can imagine that given the multitude of scammers and con artists who now ppear to taking over Craigslist, more and more people will be discouraged from sing it, and the degree of distrust of anyone making inquiries will continue to ise and rise. Is there a solution ? probably not. There are a 100 times as many
s them, as there are those to track them down and stop this nonsense.
----- Original Message -----
rom: "William Zucca" <[email protected]>
o: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
ent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:50:23 AM
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
What a load of crap. I hate those guys. I was confused the first time they
ried it with me and I only wonder how many less sophisticated, first-time
raigslist sellers give up after not being able to figure out what the hell
s going on with these messages.
Some sellers ask for a phone number from anyone writing to inquire about an
tem and say they won't respond without one. I always give my phone number
hen inquiring about a sale.
These idiots make it harder to buy and sell on craigslist and make
raigslist users mistrust everyone else who uses it. Damn them.
GrnMountainBill
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:43 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> I placed a Victrola for sale on Craigslist today, and almost > immediately I
 was contacted by two crooks/scammers.

Here is one of the bizarre email I received. I am assuming that a certain % of Sellers actually fall for this lunacy, otherwise these con artists would
 not be trying it.


 Hello,

 I'm making an immediate purchasing on behalf of my client and you will
 receive check payment in excess over the item price. The check is
 already signed, authorized and ready to be cashed. You are receiving
 over payment because it includes shipper's fee, commission along side
 due payments.

 So, expect pickup because you are not expected to ship. I understand
 that you will only allow the shipping company to pickup from your
 location after you might have received the check.

 In addition, the check will be sent as soon as you agree with me to
 deduct your earnings and send the balance through western union office
 or location. Kindly get back to me ASAP with your full name, address
 and phone# as it will be written on the check. Kindly have the item
 removed off advertisement as it is deemed sold and inform me once
 done.

 Regards
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