Hello Al, Thanks for the ICS info, I have only ever seen photos of one ICS Gem
C and one E with the large pulley. The D that Scott has is the first one I
have ever heard of as well. Thanks to you I now know why the ICS Standard C is
so common. Below is my ICS Amberola 30 info. They must have sold in
Australia and New Zealand as I know of several of the reproducers found over
there with the special lift for the amberola 30. I only know of around 4
machines so as Al said they must not have sold very well. It is interesting
the weight of the ICS H is .8 of an ounce, the same as the early automatic
before in increased to 1.2 ounces. The ICS H was made in 1915 and later so the
top is pot metal
and says TAE Inc on it. They have their
own serial numbers. From the examples I
have seen the first ones have the serial number around the sound tube, A5083 is
an example of this. The early B series
B1708 and B1717 have the serial number by the lettering as does 4775. The
later B series have stable pot metal and
number like B2243 and B3123 around the sound tube. The weight is blank and the
limit loop is
much wider than the H. It weighs .8 of
an ounce, the same as the early automatic weight. It was made to play records
that were
recorded with the 4 minute recorder as well as the ICS language records. The
weight uses a pin to hold the stylus bar
in place. On these the pin moves in the
shoulders and is lightly press fitted into the hole in the stylus bar.
4775 with the serial number by the letters appears to be in
good shape and was for sale on eBay so it appears there was the regular no
letter serial number which I assume came first.
The small tops aside from the ICS H shared serial numbers so
you can have an idea of when a reproducer was made, but Edison
used parts when he found them so you can have a later phonograph or reproducer
with earlier parts. Because there are no definite cut offs Edison is more
interesting, but harder to figure out.
The ICS 30 was sold with a four minute recorder and the
special ICS H with the special reducer ring.
If the purchaser was interested he could buy a diamond C reproducer for
the machine.
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