Actually, I guess I don't think like the scammers, which may be naive... I never thought of the idea of sending a fraudulent money order and I assumed that the seller would wait until it cleared before sending the item. As for sending cash - I have mailed cash payments to Germany, Australia, England and Uruguay without any problems, and yes, they could have refused to send the item. I have only done this with people who had 100% feedback on a number of transactions and I have read their feedback... Apparently, I have dealt with some honest collector/sellers.
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 06:50:14 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller > > Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order. > There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people who claim > to be interested in your item and who want to pay by cashier's check or money > order. These money orders and cashier's checks are stolen from banks and are > altered. Craigslist has a warning about this and about accepting those types > of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item off, you find out that > the money order or cashier's check is no good and you are stuck. So the > seller was probably afraid that this was one of those scams. They are so > widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when I am selling > something there. They always begin with a note from the would-be buyer asking > if the item is still available. They never state what the item is - like they > don;t say "Is the phonograph still available?" When you answer and say yes, > you get another email, usually from a different person, stating > "Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick up the > ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your trouble. I > will send payment by certified bank check (or money order) and upon receipt I > will arrange for my shipper to pick up th item". That is usually how it goes. > When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not if you > want to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't hear > back, or more often I hear "Thank you for your response. I will send payment > blah blah blah. It's like they never read my response. > So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. > Paypal or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. Speaking > of scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your > item? > John Robles > > > > From: "Vinyl Visions" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm > Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller > To: <[email protected]> > > > Another > scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a > Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it > really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction > because he/she said that he/she was "not comfortable" accepting a Wells > Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on > $15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash > equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it, > except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the > transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once, > even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess, > except most collectors are honest. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

