Over the past 10-12 years I've mailed over 7000 packages - two have
gotten lost. And until the past 2-3 years almost all were paid for by
check. Only two "bounced" and both made them good immediately. Which
tells me record/phono collectors are an honest, trustworthy lot - and
the USPS don't do so bad either!
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Vinyl Visions wrote:
Actually, I guess I don't think like the scammers, which may be naive... I
never thought of the idea of sending a fraudulent money order and I assumed
that the seller would wait until it cleared before sending the item. As for
sending cash - I have mailed cash payments to Germany, Australia, England and
Uruguay without any problems, and yes, they could have refused to send the
item. I have only done this with people who had 100% feedback on a number of
transactions and I have read their feedback... Apparently, I have dealt with
some honest collector/sellers.
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 06:50:14 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order. There is a
huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people who claim to be interested in your
item and who want to pay by cashier's check or money order. These money orders and
cashier's checks are stolen from banks and are altered. Craigslist has a warning about
this and about accepting those types of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item
off, you find out that the money order or cashier's check is no good and you are stuck.
So the seller was probably afraid that this was one of those scams. They are so
widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when I am selling something there.
They always begin with a note from the would-be buyer asking if the item is still
available. They never state what the item is - like they don;t say "Is the
phonograph still available?" When you answer and say yes, you get another email,
usually from a different person, stating
"Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick up the
ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your trouble. I will send
payment by certified bank check (or money order) and upon receipt I will arrange for my
shipper to pick up th item". That is usually how it goes.
When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not if you want
to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't hear back, or more
often I hear "Thank you for your response. I will send payment blah blah blah.
It's like they never read my response.
So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. Paypal
or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. Speaking of
scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your item?
John Robles
From: "Vinyl Visions"<[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
To:<[email protected]>
Another
scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a
Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it
really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction
because he/she said that he/she was "not comfortable" accepting a Wells
Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on
$15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash
equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it,
except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the
transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once,
even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess,
except most collectors are honest.
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