Don't forget you must "train" your records when using bamboo. Mike\Oldcranky
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Bob Maffit <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve: > > Other than finding the Bamboo needles in phonographs I have obtained, I > haven't found a source for them. > > Do you know of any? > > later > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Steven Medved > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record > > > > > > > > > If you want to preserve a record you need to use a quality needle and > change > it after each play. The Chamberlain needles on eBay are fully polished, > but > the diameter is too large and they contact the shoulders at the beginning > of > each play. > > > > You see many victrolas with records that look new, at least you used to. > When the reproducer was new with soft gaskets the reproducer was compliant > and they changed needles each time. 70 years later with hard gaskets and > the same needle the records wear. > > > > I believe that as long as the record is shellac a steel needle is OK unless > the record is rare or an early one then you would want to use bamboo. The > vinyl 78's and the flexible Marconi records I would not use a steel needle > with. > > > > I suggest medium tone needles, you get less distortion. > > > > The shellac records were made with an abrasive so they will accomodate > steel > needles, I learned the hard way vinyl is badly affected by steel needles. > I do not think electrically recorded records are adversly affected by a > steel needle, I have never noted any problems. The run in groove appeared > around 1930 to 1933 from what I have been told. I welcome comments. Steve > > > > > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:06:36 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just gotten my first keeper wind-up phonograph, a Victor VV 8-35 > > (which a list member is refurbishing the mechanics of, I can hardly > > wait!), and I have a really elementary question: How do I tell which > > records can be safely played with a steel needle? > > > > I suspect all Victor batwings are OK. But is there a general rule of > > thumb besides date (would that be pretty much 1930s and before?) As > > late as when? Is absence of a spiral run-in groove a reliable indicator? > > Does "electrically recorded" mean too late? > > > > I belong to an antique radio club and at the last meeting one member > > sold another a table model along with half a dozen albums of > > 1940s-1950s 78s. I told them both that the steel needle in the heavy > > acoustic reproducer will ruin those records, and with the right > > records you also need to replace the needle for every play. But they > > went ahead demonstrating the machine and turning the grooves white. Oh > well. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris Kocsis > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

