Don't forget you must "train" your records when using bamboo.
Mike\Oldcranky

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Bob Maffit <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve:
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> Other than finding the Bamboo needles in phonographs I have obtained, I
> haven't found a source for them.
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> Do you know of any?
>
> later
>
> Bob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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> Behalf Of Steven Medved
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:12 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record
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> If you want to preserve a record you need to use a quality needle and
> change
> it after each play.  The Chamberlain needles on eBay are fully polished,
> but
> the diameter is too large and they contact the shoulders at the beginning
> of
> each play.
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> You see many victrolas with records that look new, at least you used to.
> When the reproducer was new with soft gaskets the reproducer was compliant
> and they changed needles each time.  70 years later with hard gaskets and
> the same needle the records wear.
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> I believe that as long as the record is shellac a steel needle is OK unless
> the record is rare or an early one then you would want to use bamboo.  The
> vinyl 78's and the flexible Marconi records I would not use a steel needle
> with.
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> I suggest medium tone needles, you get less distortion.
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> The shellac records were made with an abrasive so they will accomodate
> steel
> needles, I learned the hard way vinyl is badly affected by steel needles.
> I do not think electrically recorded records are adversly affected by a
> steel needle, I have never noted any problems.  The run in groove appeared
> around 1930 to 1933 from what I have been told. I welcome comments. Steve
>
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> > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:06:36 -0500
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've just gotten my first keeper wind-up phonograph, a Victor VV 8-35
> > (which a list member is refurbishing the mechanics of, I can hardly
> > wait!), and I have a really elementary question: How do I tell which
> > records can be safely played with a steel needle?
> >
> > I suspect all Victor batwings are OK. But is there a general rule of
> > thumb besides date (would that be pretty much 1930s and before?) As
> > late as when? Is absence of a spiral run-in groove a reliable indicator?
> > Does "electrically recorded" mean too late?
> >
> > I belong to an antique radio club and at the last meeting one member
> > sold another a table model along with half a dozen albums of
> > 1940s-1950s 78s. I told them both that the steel needle in the heavy
> > acoustic reproducer will ruin those records, and with the right
> > records you also need to replace the needle for every play. But they
> > went ahead demonstrating the machine and turning the grooves white. Oh
> well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris Kocsis
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